On phone to HMRC for payment of voluntary NI contributions. How long?..

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Just this really. Am lucky to have received the Pension Forecast from DW&P. I now need to get the 18 digit reference number to pay my shortfall.
Tried twice already, the wait was approximately 40 mins each time, then line went dead.
im now still waiting to be answered (31 mins so far). How long was your wait and when is the best time to call? Thanks
im now still waiting to be answered (31 mins so far). How long was your wait and when is the best time to call? Thanks
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Will try tomorrow morning early. Thanks for your replies.
The musak is monotonous though.
Mid-week early morning and just before lunch are 'hearsay' the best times.
It's only going to get busier as all those wanting to lock in the current year cost rather than next year's price for older years contributions as well as those (like my wife) who need to go further back than the 'last 6'.
However the website they gave me to pay through, was incorrect. Used the information from this website and am now sorted. Thanks for all you replies.
yesterday 50 mins on the phone to (0300) NI allercation folks,