PCN - picture does not show full plate on entrance

kernow999

Firstly, thank you Grizebeck, so please don't take this the wrong way but it just sounds to simple!
However i will heed you thoughtful advice and fire it back to them tomorrow as my opening salvo in my initial appeal to smartparking.

Grizebeck

kernow999 said:

Firstly, thank you Grizebeck, so please don't take this the wrong way but it just sounds to simple!
However i will heed you thoughtful advice and fire it back to them tomorrow as my opening salvo in my initial appeal to smartparking.

Yes its all you need to do!
Log it on their website
When you click through at the end you have to click through twice

Coupon-mad

It is very, very easy to beat Smart just by saying 'non-POFA, innit?' Which is what that appeal does.

This is nothing new.

It will work.

OBVIOUSLY, DO NOT TICK 'DRIVER' ON ANY PAGE.

But you already know why not, from reading NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST.

kernow999

Thank you, grizebeck, coupon mad and keithp.
Is there any advantage to do doing this asap or wait.
ps i will only use this thread, lesson learnt!
I will update with the result of smartparking outcome.

Coupon-mad

Just put it in now.

kernow999

It worked, thanks!!!!

Coupon-mad

Fab!  Easy when you know how and a lesson for new posters wondering about a PCN from Smart Parking:

It is very, very easy to beat Smart just by saying'non-POFA, innit?' Which is what that appeal does.

That is all you need!  Never talk in an appeal, about who was driving or the story of what happened.

kernow999

Cannot believe that's all it took, but its true. It does lend to the question "why are the not pofa compliant"? money i guess? they would rather not pay and rely on the public being mugs.

Coupon-mad

Some PPCs choose not to bother with 'keeper liability' because complying with the POFA takes effort and requires them to serve NTKs by day 14.

If they know they can't always achieve that, then it puts them at risk of sanction points if caught out issuing late POFA NTKs with wording that would mislead.

So they avoid all that hassle by using the old rules (pre-POFA) and basic wording that means they can only hold drivers liable.  Those 'non-POFA' NTKs are allowed to be served for months, and take zero effort.

They know full well that most shocked recipients can't tell the difference and will rush out a useless knee-jerk 'I was the driver and this is what happened' doomed appeal that means the keeper liability protection that person had is in the bin.

A win-win business approach for the PPC.

KXL88

Damn I wish I knew this before! Got a fine from them ages ago, paid off. There were 2 parking lots both run by them on the same street, and while I paid and displayed, I extended with the wrong one on the street.