* So you post something out. They're a bit of an idiot and want to return it. You get it back but not in the condition you sent it.
Where do you stand?
My guess is because eBay love to protect the buyer & give the middle finger to the seller, it's a case of unlucky, you've no cash & now no item. You may as well have just chucked it in the bin from the get go. Oh it's expensive and costs £500? Unlucky you.
When I asked ebay about this in my case, they simply said i couldn't guarantee 100% the item would not have been damaged even if it was in the box I sent it in originally. Of course that's true, I couldn't guarantee 100%, but the specific damage it received, i.e a light squashing of the outer box, would surely have been prevented if it had been sent in the much stronger & rigid outer box I originally sent it in. I wasn't saying my box would have protected it even if it had been run over by a steam roller, but the damage it did receive would have. But ebay just didnt care about that side. They only bright side i got the P&P cost she used refunded.
Loving this thread – shared pain! For Facebook marketplace the biggest annoyance I have
at the moment is people will message with a standard text saying “I like the
look of your <INSERT PRODUCT NAME IN CAPITALS> and wondering if it was
the same as this:” and then they have a series of links underneath. Not even
sure what the scam is here?
Worst kind of items to sell are electricals. Always seems to
bring out the worst in people and get endless stupid questions from people who
simply don’t read the listing properly and purely timewasting.
Tons of “Is this still available?” and then without any reply.
Plenty of people wanting to deliver - stopped that when I once delivered a table to a house 40mins away and then found 3 cars on the driveway, all of which could fit the table!!
Also lots of one or two word messages like “10” or “you
deliver” etc. No manners. Tend to ignore and block people like that. Or reply along the lines of "what do you mean?" in order to be a bit awkward and force use of proper English.
Generally set a £10 minimum to be worth my time, anything
less than that goes to charity or give away locally for free.
Did once give away a BBQ for free on Marketplace (lesson
learnt – always list on local giveaway sites instead) and a guy asked my
postcode and then next I knew I had a flurry of messages at 6am the next day to
tell me he was off his nightshift and had driven to collect. I didn’t see he
messaged for an hour.
All this said, generally had good experiences and as a
seller I find being on FB marketplace and off ebay and away from the buyer protection and account neg
feedback policies a benefit for sellers. Also a lot quicker / less faff.
Years ago a buyer purchased a film and claimed INR, a quick Google of the buyer's name brought up a website where he was hosting an online diary of all the films he'd been watching, including the one he watched a few days after he'd it purchased from me.
At the time you could see the seller names on feedback profiles so I messaged a few sellers, lo and behold same story INR on every order. Buyer closed the claim when I sent a link to his diary but one of the other sellers was furious, she'd already refunded and made the guy pay her back. She was nice enough to me in her replies but I get the feeling the buyer got both barrels!
Weirdest one is going back 15 years or so now but buyer purchased and said "I'll pick it up on Sunday", now I'm flexible but it was the middle of summer and I lived right on the seafront, like I'm going to sit indoors all day waiting for someone who doesn't have the curtsey to at least ask if they can inconvenience me so I said no.
After several very long winded messages of how unfair it was (despite the listings saying collection was not available on anything for sale) was he told me he was sick of people like me bullying him, I assume the irony was lost on him...
Facebook is very annoying:
"Is this available?" "Hello, yes it's still available, would you like to pop by and have a look at it?" Silence
Just had another on Marketplace. She isn't the only one. I've had a lot ask this (electrical items)...
"I assume it's working" "Is it working" "I take it it works"
No. I'm selling faulty goods you moron!
What do they honestly expect me to say to that?
Oh darn, you got me. If you didn't ask I wouldn't have said anything but now you have, I must confess!!
Tons of “Is this still available?” and then without any reply.
Had one of these a while ago. Well actually, I get a lot of them but this one really took the piddle.
"Is it available" ... yes
Week or so later ... same
Few weeks later ... same.
Then a month later (yeah it wasn't selling. Think i threw it in the bin) - he asked the same.
Yes it's still for sale and I imagine it'll still be for sale in a few months time when you ask yet again for the 5th time!
Plenty of people wanting to deliver - stopped that when I once delivered
a table to a house 40mins away and then found 3 cars on the driveway,
all of which could fit the table!!
Working in deliveries I see this a lot. Just general lazy people wanting things delivered that they could literally put in their pocket.
We actually started charging for delivery at my company. When this came in the customer would be told - that's £10 for delivery (or whatever it was at the time, can't remember).
You what? You don't charge for delivery.
Yeah well fuel prices etc, now we are.
Well you can forget that. I'll take it with me now.
:-/
Years ago a buyer purchased a film and claimed INR, a quick Google of
the buyer's name brought up a website where he was hosting an online
diary of all the films he'd been watching, including the one he watched a
few days after he'd it purchased from me.
See this is what I ask about and I get told - barely anyone is like that.
Well first off, they must not come across the people I do in day to day life. I have a high opinion of animals, low opinion of humans but anyway...
All it takes is one person & it really puts a sour taste in the mouth.
And for the record, I've still not heard back from that guy who claimed I hadn't sent all his items.
Now whether he gets in touch right before the end of PayPal's claim cut off, I don't know.
I am hoping he finally got round to unravelling the packaging like someone with half an ounce would. Had it been me, I would've followed up with another message to say terribly sorry but I've been an idiot - I didn't look properly and it was in the packaging as you said.
@justanothersaver I had similar issue. Sold a camera with a fault, listed fault, included picture of camera showing said fault in advert pictures.
Sold camera and check buyer is aware. No they weren't. Although buyer not reading advert is quite common as have had queries before including a buyer complaining item damaged not as described in advert and when asked for evidence refers to my advert photos (I do tend to include pics of flaws if any when I list).
@justanothersaver I had similar issue. Sold a camera with a fault, listed fault, included picture of camera showing said fault in advert pictures.
Sold camera and check buyer is aware. No they weren't. Although buyer not reading advert is quite common as have had queries before including a buyer complaining item damaged not as described in advert and when asked for evidence refers to my advert photos (I do tend to include pics of flaws if any when I list).
I made a not-reading error ONCE, I must hold my hands up.
In my defence, the seller put so much bumf in the listing that it was lost in it.
Yep, I should've read & digested word for word. I thought I had read it all but obviously I missed an important part & it was my error.
I had an item which is worth £5 and can relatively easily be acquired for £5 elsewhere. It can often fetch £10 on ebay but you may have to let it run a few cycles.
I used to list them on best offer with starting bid of £9 + £1 postage. Once I got a very long-winded message about how this guy is a genuine collector and basically it boiled down to "will you accept £18". I said yes, just click Make Offer.
Nothing happened and the item didn't sell that cycle, the next time, he sent a very long message again about how he was disappointed he didn't win (??) the auction but he felt that I should offer free postage. I said "well, why don't you offer £17 and then you will pay £18 in total".
Again nothing happened, and it was relisted again, this time he offered £18 and paid the £1 postage on top. But he'd had 3 opportunities to get the item for £10 if he had just bid £9!!
I once sold a bottle of perfume, I no longer had the original box but double boxed it as it was glass and one of the boxes I used belonged to a different type of perfume I no longer had. Buyer got the parcel and said you have sent me the wrong item, no I haven't, please just open the box and it's the correct one, back and forth, back and forth, he even opened a case. Eventually I managed to get through to him after a couple more days to open the box and he would find what he ordered, he did, voila. W.T.F.
Thrifty Till 50 Then Spend Till the End
You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time
Sold a 4' x 6' she'd online. Buyer arranged to collect it, all good.
Except buyer arrived at 6am, we were expecting him to turn up a bit later but he just said that he thought we wouldn't mind! Shortly after buyer arrived, so did his son. Both were in estate cars but there was no way the shed's panels were going to fit inside the cars. DH and I are thinking, "What on earth?" and considered that maybe someone else would be along to transport it to its new home.
No. Buyer plus son put shed panels directly onto the roofs of their cars. No roof bars, no roof racks, just straight onto the roofs. Tied on with rope through the rear door windows. Utter madness. They were a bit wobbly as they drove off but that wasn't my problem. DH and I had a good laugh about it, especially as we'd made an exceptional profit on the shed (purchased for £50,sold for £135!).
I once sold a bottle of perfume, I no longer had the original box but double boxed it as it was glass and one of the boxes I used belonged to a different type of perfume I no longer had. Buyer got the parcel and said you have sent me the wrong item, no I haven't, please just open the box and it's the correct one, back and forth, back and forth, he even opened a case. Eventually I managed to get through to him after a couple more days to open the box and he would find what he ordered, he did, voila. W.T.F.
I've found that peoples hard headedness just isn't worth it. We encounter this kind of thing all the time in my workplace.
Without going in to too much detail, say you have 2 products. 1 of the products packaging bursts. You can easily package it up in one of the spare packagings from the other product, it's no big deal - but the customer will insist that the contents are wrong.
So it really isn't worth the hassle of us re-packaging. We'll leave it burst so they can see it & maybe re-package it in front of them or give them it burst.
Had so many disagreements with customers over this over the years.
Had another idiot case today. Most of my items are in & about the £10 range. This one item is £50.
3am this morning. Yes, THREE AM!!!!!!!!! I receive a message on Marketplace about it. Like you couldn't possibly wait until a more suitable hour?
Good thing I have do not disturb turned on on my phone.
Question:
Is this still available and if so, what's the absolute lowest price you will take?
I absolutely detest that stupid question. Right there I'm not selling to this guy. Maybe I shouldn't have such a short fuse but I have low tolerance of these kinds of people I'm afraid & I can't change that.
What's my lowest price? What you want me to say?
Well I'm asking for £50, absolutely every listing on eBay goes for the £60-£80 area so the "absolute lowest", forgetting for a second that I'm already asking for less than everyone else, is let's say, I don't know, £30.
For them to then come in & say ... will you take £25?
Want me to tell you where you can stick your £25???
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When I asked ebay about this in my case, they simply said i couldn't guarantee 100% the item would not have been damaged even if it was in the box I sent it in originally. Of course that's true, I couldn't guarantee 100%, but the specific damage it received, i.e a light squashing of the outer box, would surely have been prevented if it had been sent in the much stronger & rigid outer box I originally sent it in. I wasn't saying my box would have protected it even if it had been run over by a steam roller, but the damage it did receive would have. But ebay just didnt care about that side. They only bright side i got the P&P cost she used refunded.
Loving this thread – shared pain! For Facebook marketplace the biggest annoyance I have at the moment is people will message with a standard text saying “I like the look of your <INSERT PRODUCT NAME IN CAPITALS> and wondering if it was the same as this:” and then they have a series of links underneath. Not even sure what the scam is here?
Worst kind of items to sell are electricals. Always seems to bring out the worst in people and get endless stupid questions from people who simply don’t read the listing properly and purely timewasting.
Tons of “Is this still available?” and then without any reply.
Plenty of people wanting to deliver - stopped that when I once delivered a table to a house 40mins away and then found 3 cars on the driveway, all of which could fit the table!!
Also lots of one or two word messages like “10” or “you deliver” etc. No manners. Tend to ignore and block people like that. Or reply along the lines of "what do you mean?" in order to be a bit awkward and force use of proper English.
Generally set a £10 minimum to be worth my time, anything less than that goes to charity or give away locally for free.
Did once give away a BBQ for free on Marketplace (lesson learnt – always list on local giveaway sites instead) and a guy asked my postcode and then next I knew I had a flurry of messages at 6am the next day to tell me he was off his nightshift and had driven to collect. I didn’t see he messaged for an hour.
All this said, generally had good experiences and as a seller I find being on FB marketplace and off ebay and away from the buyer protection and account neg feedback policies a benefit for sellers. Also a lot quicker / less faff.
At the time you could see the seller names on feedback profiles so I messaged a few sellers, lo and behold same story INR on every order. Buyer closed the claim when I sent a link to his diary but one of the other sellers was furious, she'd already refunded and made the guy pay her back. She was nice enough to me in her replies but I get the feeling the buyer got both barrels!
Weirdest one is going back 15 years or so now but buyer purchased and said "I'll pick it up on Sunday", now I'm flexible but it was the middle of summer and I lived right on the seafront, like I'm going to sit indoors all day waiting for someone who doesn't have the curtsey to at least ask if they can inconvenience me so I said no.
After several very long winded messages of how unfair it was (despite the listings saying collection was not available on anything for sale) was he told me he was sick of people like me bullying him, I assume the irony was lost on him...
Facebook is very annoying:
"Is this available?"
"Hello, yes it's still available, would you like to pop by and have a look at it?"
Silence
Why blooming ask?
Sleep well.
I made a not-reading error ONCE, I must hold my hands up.
I used to list them on best offer with starting bid of £9 + £1 postage. Once I got a very long-winded message about how this guy is a genuine collector and basically it boiled down to "will you accept £18". I said yes, just click Make Offer.
Nothing happened and the item didn't sell that cycle, the next time, he sent a very long message again about how he was disappointed he didn't win (??) the auction but he felt that I should offer free postage. I said "well, why don't you offer £17 and then you will pay £18 in total".
Again nothing happened, and it was relisted again, this time he offered £18 and paid the £1 postage on top. But he'd had 3 opportunities to get the item for £10 if he had just bid £9!!
You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time
Except buyer arrived at 6am, we were expecting him to turn up a bit later but he just said that he thought we wouldn't mind! Shortly after buyer arrived, so did his son. Both were in estate cars but there was no way the shed's panels were going to fit inside the cars. DH and I are thinking, "What on earth?" and considered that maybe someone else would be along to transport it to its new home.
No. Buyer plus son put shed panels directly onto the roofs of their cars. No roof bars, no roof racks, just straight onto the roofs. Tied on with rope through the rear door windows. Utter madness. They were a bit wobbly as they drove off but that wasn't my problem. DH and I had a good laugh about it, especially as we'd made an exceptional profit on the shed (purchased for £50,sold for £135!).