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Council tax band advertised on rented property different from actual band

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  • AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

  • lincroft1710
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    AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    I quoted in reference that if someone had a structural change but hasn't sold it the banding can be rebanded if a similar neighbouring properties banding has been changed. 
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,510 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    I quoted in reference that if someone had a structural change but hasn't sold it the banding can be rebanded if a similar neighbouring properties banding has been changed. 
    But we weren't discussing non structural alteration rebanding.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    I quoted in reference that if someone had a structural change but hasn't sold it the banding can be rebanded if a similar neighbouring properties banding has been changed. 
    But we weren't discussing non structural alteration rebanding.
    Person A gets an extension done on the house and creates a new bedroom and room downstairs, person B who lives next door likes what they have done and does the same thing. Both are on band c. Person A then sells their home and the house is rebanded to Band D. Person B gets notification that their band will change to Band D to reflect the same properties in the area.

    Its an example of how bandings can change even if there is no change in ownership which was discussed.
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,510 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    I quoted in reference that if someone had a structural change but hasn't sold it the banding can be rebanded if a similar neighbouring properties banding has been changed. 
    But we weren't discussing non structural alteration rebanding.
    Person A gets an extension done on the house and creates a new bedroom and room downstairs, person B who lives next door likes what they have done and does the same thing. Both are on band c. Person A then sells their home and the house is rebanded to Band D. Person B gets notification that their band will change to Band D to reflect the same properties in the area.

    Its an example of how bandings can change even if there is no change in ownership which was discussed.
    That is total rubbish!

    Person B's band cannot be increased to Band D, to bring it in line with next door as next door was increased on account of structural alterations and a relevant transaction. Person B's house cannot be increased until it is sold. 
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    I quoted in reference that if someone had a structural change but hasn't sold it the banding can be rebanded if a similar neighbouring properties banding has been changed. 
    But we weren't discussing non structural alteration rebanding.
    Person A gets an extension done on the house and creates a new bedroom and room downstairs, person B who lives next door likes what they have done and does the same thing. Both are on band c. Person A then sells their home and the house is rebanded to Band D. Person B gets notification that their band will change to Band D to reflect the same properties in the area.

    Its an example of how bandings can change even if there is no change in ownership which was discussed.
    That is total rubbish!

    Person B's band cannot be increased to Band D, to bring it in line with next door as next door was increased on account of structural alterations and a relevant transaction. Person B's house cannot be increased until it is sold. 
    I think you missed the bit were i said person B made the same structural alterations. It was just an example based on the gov guidelines i posted. I have only heard of one person whose band was increased because a house with a similar extension was sold and the new neighbours challenged the council on it. Instead of reducing the new buyers band they increased the other property because of the structural alteration.
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,510 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    AdrianC said:
    Slithery said:
    The property may have been band c but with change of ownership/tenants can often change the band.
    A change of tenants should never change the banding, it is occasionally reviewed on change of ownership.
    My house was a band c but when i bought it a couple of months ago it went up to a band d all because of an extension 19 years ago.
    Correct. Whenever a property is extended the council tax doesn't change straight away, it will have what's known as an 'improvement indicator' placed on it meaning that the banding will be reassessed the next time that the property changes hands. Checking for this is part of the due diligence you should be doing when looking at properties.
    Next time the CT payers change - whether owners or tenants.
    No, has to be a change of ownership

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/council-tax-band-changes 

    Rebanding of similar properties nearby

    Your property band may also change following the rebanding of one or more properties of a similar size, type and construction in the immediate area of your property.

    You may also find out from your solicitor that the Council Tax band of a property you’re buying is likely to change.

    A change in your Council Tax band means the amount of Council Tax you pay to your local authority will also change.


    Or this. Change of ownership doesn't rule out any change, if similar properties are rebanded it can affect nearby properties.

    I don't why you have quoted this. My correction of Adrian C's post was purely about band increases on account of structural alterations, of which I encountered many when working in the VOA  
    I quoted in reference that if someone had a structural change but hasn't sold it the banding can be rebanded if a similar neighbouring properties banding has been changed. 
    But we weren't discussing non structural alteration rebanding.
    Person A gets an extension done on the house and creates a new bedroom and room downstairs, person B who lives next door likes what they have done and does the same thing. Both are on band c. Person A then sells their home and the house is rebanded to Band D. Person B gets notification that their band will change to Band D to reflect the same properties in the area.

    Its an example of how bandings can change even if there is no change in ownership which was discussed.
    That is total rubbish!

    Person B's band cannot be increased to Band D, to bring it in line with next door as next door was increased on account of structural alterations and a relevant transaction. Person B's house cannot be increased until it is sold. 
    I think you missed the bit were i said person B made the same structural alterations. It was just an example based on the gov guidelines i posted. I have only heard of one person whose band was increased because a house with a similar extension was sold and the new neighbours challenged the council on it. Instead of reducing the new buyers band they increased the other property because of the structural alteration.
    Unless it was a pre 1993 alteration a CT band cannot be increased on account of structural alterations carried out by the current owner. If the alteration was carried out by a previous owner and not picked up when the sale occurred, the band can be increased when the alteration comes to light.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
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