New Style ESA support group / UC LCRWA element

maxkins

i have been put in the support group on new style ESA. so gone up from 74 to 114 per week. 
i claimed UC last month so I know i will get my rent paid plus the 20 uplift.
however i read that under UC there is an 'additonal element' that you get £343 per month UC if you get put in the support group. 
so does that mean that UC will pay me the 343 addiitonal element and then take off the 114 per week ESA ?
thank you

poppy12345

Yes, you will be entitled to the LCWRA, which is same as ESA Support Group. The £20 uplift is due to end in October, unless the Government decide to incress it further. Your ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement, which will be £494 per month.

calcotti

You will not get the extra £343 in UC straightaway unless the start date for you being in the ESA Support Group is earlier than the date you claimed UC. If it isn't you will only get the extra money in UC in your fourth UC payment (assuming that you did report your health condition as part of your UC claim).
When did you claim UC?
What date have ESA said they are putting you in the Support Group from?

maxkins

calcotti said:

You will not get the extra £343 in UC straightaway unless the start date for you being in the ESA Support Group is earlier than the date you claimed UC. If it isn't you will only get the extra money in UC in your fourth UC payment (assuming that you did report your health condition as part of your UC claim).
When did you claim UC?
What date have ESA said they are putting you in the Support Group from?

claimed ESA last year, i'm not sure of the dates, september i think. so suport group 3 months or so after that makes it start of january i think. need to check the letter.
claimed UC at the start of april. just had a letter form UC saying theyve assessed me as LCWRA (presumably ESA passed on the info) but it doesnt say anyting about money in there. 

maxkins

poppy12345 said:

Yes, you will be entitled to the LCWRA, which is same as ESA Support Group. The £20 uplift is due to end in October, unless the Government decide to incress it further. Your ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement, which will be £494 per month.

The LWRCA element is 343 and the standard allowance is 411. so shouldnt UC give me 343+411 ? 
(taking off the ESA of 494 after that of course)

poppy12345

maxkins said:

poppy12345 said:

Yes, you will be entitled to the LCWRA, which is same as ESA Support Group. The £20 uplift is due to end in October, unless the Government decide to incress it further. Your ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement, which will be £494 per month.

The LWRCA element is 343 and the standard allowance is 411. so shouldnt UC give me 343+411 ? 
(taking off the ESA of 494 after that of course)

Yes, that's correct. From October the standard element will reduce by £86 per month.

calcotti

maxkins said:

calcotti said:

You will not get the extra £343 in UC straightaway unless the start date for you being in the ESA Support Group is earlier than the date you claimed UC. If it isn't you will only get the extra money in UC in your fourth UC payment (assuming that you did report your health condition as part of your UC claim).
When did you claim UC?
What date have ESA said they are putting you in the Support Group from?

claimed ESA last year, i'm not sure of the dates, september i think. so suport group 3 months or so after that makes it start of january i think. need to check the letter.
claimed UC at the start of april. just had a letter form UC saying theyve assessed me as LCWRA (presumably ESA passed on the info) but it doesnt say anyting about money in there. 

So you should get the extra LCWRA element in UC from the start of your claim.