The Forum is currently experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. Thank you for your patience.

ESA earnings (permitted work) and tax refund

i am on new style ESA and i started a new job under permittted work. my weekly pay is meant to be 120 but my first pay packet has included a tax refund of about £300 as a i had a job earlier in the year and have overpaid tax.
therefore my paypacket has taken me over the permitted earnings threshold. i'm not sure what to do. this means i might be not eligible for ESA for the past month. should i write to them and explain the additional money is a tax refund? it feels a bit unfair to lose my ESA becuase of a tax refund, is this something they might use their discretion on at all?

Comments

  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 26 February 2021 at 9:54AM
    Looking at guidance I am not clear whether a tax refund will be treated as earnings.
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/881138/admv4.pdf
    My instinct is that a tax refund should be disregarded but I can’t find anything that states this in the document and it is just possible that it falls to be treated as earnings from a previous employment. Even if the latter applies they would have to relate it to a pay period.

    If you want to avoid worrying about you could ring ESA or write to them with a copy of the payslip and ask them to let you know. If you ring you probably need a Decision Maker to look at it rather than just whoever answers the phone.

    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • thank you, that sounds positive... I will avoid the phonecall in case i get someone who has no clue...will send them a letter and my payslip and just hope for the best! 
  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 17,794 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper PPI Party Pooper
    thank you, that sounds positive... I will avoid the phonecall in case i get someone who has no clue...will send them a letter and my payslip and just hope for the best! 
    Is that the voice of experience speaking? :-)

  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    thank you, that sounds positive... I will avoid the phonecall in case i get someone who has no clue...will send them a letter and my payslip and just hope for the best! 
    I suggest something the lines of
    You know I am doing permitted work. I am aware that to be permitted work it must be less than 16 hours/week and I must earn no more than £140/week. I have now received my first payslip and have received a tax refund for tax deducted in a previous employment before I stopped work. I enclose a copy of the payslip. I believe the tax refund should be ignored and therefore does not affect my ESA entitlement but would be grateful if you would confirm this. 
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 242.9K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 619.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.4K Life & Family
  • 255.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.