BW Legal notice of county claim issued for a PCN from 2015!

Orangecordial

nosferatu1001 said:

I cant see if this was discussed, but do you need to declare the drivers identity to the entire world? Do you gain an advantage from doing so, or is it already known to the PPC? 

IF NOT then edit your post, NOW

It's already known unfortunately, I tried to appeal the PCN back when it happened and think I admitted to being the driver back then.

Orangecordial

Fruitcake said:

4. Both the occupant and the Defendant were unaware of any parking measures in place at the time, as there was very little no signage to indicate so. No entrance signs were present, and the one sign describing any parking measure subsequently found, if it related to parking at all, had been deliberately placed at the farthest point from the entrance of the car park, of a temporary building and can be easily obscured completely by any vehicle parked in the bay directly alongside it.

Thankyou, I will make these edits.  Very much appreciated.

Snakes_Belly

Fruitcake said:

Car park entrance June 2015, one month before the alleged event. Approached from Blantyre St. No entrance signs visible.



Car park entrance May 2018, viewed from the same position three years later, no change in signage. It is presumed therefore that no change in signage has occurred in between. No entrance signs visible.



Car park June 2015, one month before the alleged event viewed from the ring road. Note the yellow sign on the bin shed just in front of the minibus windscreen. No other signs visible. 



Another view from June 2015 of the car park one month before the alleged event. No evidence of signs.



Car park in April 2016, eleven months after the alleged event. No change in signage compared to image from previous year. No readable or visible signs evident. Possible unidentified and unreadable sign visible on the bin shed.



Car park in April 2016, eleven months after the alleged event, no change in signage compared to image from previous year. No visible or readable signs evident.



Car park entrance in June 2015, one month before the alleged event approached from ring road. Possible parking (or bin/recycling) sign visible on the shed in the centre of the image. No other signs evident.



Bin shed view in June 2015 with undecipherable sign.



From the scammers own website,

https://parkingpatrol.co.uk/welcome-to-parking-patrol/

"After a site evaluation, we will erect our contractual warning signs at suitable locations as to allow each driver entering the site a clear view of the terms that the particular site has in force."

... or maybe not. 

Nicely done Fruitcake. These images will support the defence in the Witness Statement. Posters should never underestimate the importance of images. 

In the Vine case the sign was obliterated by a high vehicle (Range Rover I think).  This case was heard at the Court of Appeal so influential. The Vine case and the images should support your case in the WS.     

Orangecordial

KeithP said:

26th October? Is that the Issue Date on your County Court Claim Form? I'll assume it is. Please confirm.

With a Claim Issue Date of 26th October, you have until Monday 16th November to file an Acknowledgment of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. 

To file an AoS, follow the guidance in the Dropbox file linked from the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Having filed an AoS, you have until 4pm on Monday 30th November 2020 to file your Defence.

That's almost four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look again at the second post on the NEWBIES thread - immediately following where you found the Acknowledgment of Service instructions.

Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence.

I went to file my defence earlier this week but the MCOL site kept coming up with error messages, and said my claim number and password were incorrect when I tried to log in. Are you sure the deadline would be the 30th? 
Last Monday (23rd) would be 28 days from the claim date, however reading the document about submitting an AoS it says there is an additional 5 days for service dates, which makes 33 days... So if that is the case, yesterday would have been the deadline? 
I emailed my defense to them yesterday but can't get anywhere on the MCOL site, is that a problem?
If I have missed the deadline by 5 days, is that also a problem? 
I will be calling their helpline first thing on Monday but if anyone can put my mind at ease until then I would be so grateful!

Umkomaas

Last Monday (23rd) would be 28 days from the claim date, however reading the document about submitting an AoS it says there is an additional 5 days for service dates, which makes 33 days... So if that is the case, yesterday would have been the deadline? 

@KeithP doesn't make errors on critical dates. 'Yesterday' was Saturday - a non-business day, so the next business day is Monday and is correct in my calculation. 

Orangecordial

Umkomaas said:

Last Monday (23rd) would be 28 days from the claim date, however reading the document about submitting an AoS it says there is an additional 5 days for service dates, which makes 33 days... So if that is the case, yesterday would have been the deadline? 

@KeithP doesn't make errors on critical dates. 'Yesterday' was Saturday - a non-business day, so the next business day is Monday and is correct in my calculation. 

Thanks, I thought this might be the case but just wanted to be double sure. Panic got the better of me!

I am still confused as to why the MCOL site is telling my my details are incorrect though and that I can't submit the defence through there. Is this a common issue? 

Le_Kirk

You don't want to submit your defence through MCOL.  If you have sent it by e-mail using the address that you will find if you follow the links provided by @KeithP and have received an auto receipt, that should be fine.  If you haven't sent it to the e-mail address provided, do it now and stop trying to do it on MCOL.  

Coupon-mad

Why were you trying to use MCOL to file a defence that won't fit there?  You have our advice on how to file a defence and you don't now try to put even a full stop in on MCOL, otherwise that becomes your 'defence'.

nosferatu1001

Email is precisely how you have been instructed to file. 

The newbies thread cannot be more clear on this. Cannot be 

no idea why your details are wrong. Cannot possibly help you. Do it through the website. But email the defence. 

Orangecordial

For some reason I had it in my mind that I needed to submit the defence using the site, and send an email as a backup. I've sent the email though so should be all ok. Thanks again.