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Fidelity report: 3% BTC position in past 5yrs would have increased performance of a 60/40 portfolio

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edited 16 October 2020 at 12:52AM in Savings & investments
Fidelity Investments Inc. reports, that 3% percent of Bitcoin in standard 60/40 portfolio could have increased returns from 6.8% to 10.2%. That's including the boom and bust most recent Bitcoin bubble in 2017-18, despite all volatility.
That's very interesting.
Some institutional investors and public trading companies are already following this trend, with over $500 million of Bitcoin added to publicly traded companies portfolios in last two months - it was MicroStrategy Inc (MSTR.US), Stoneridge Inc (SRI.US) and Square Inc (SQ.US).

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  • Malthusian
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    edited 16 October 2020 at 10:12AM
    Almost nobody puts 3% of a 60/40 portfolio in BitCoin. Either you want to get rich quick or you don't. 3% of your free assets in BitCoin isn't going to change your wealth level even if there is another pump, you're just going to regret not putting in more.
    The risk profile for a 60/40 portfolio is incompatible with an investment in BitCoin and suggests irrational compartmentalisation. If you are risk-seeking enough to be gambling on zero-sum games then why isn't your retirement / long-term fund 100% equities at the very least?
  • I put a few thousand pounds into an ETC in my pension  in case it grows by another 50x in the next 5 years.

    @bowlhead99 put few thousand pounds into alternative cryptocurrency, for retirement?!! Hell has officially frozen over! :o;)
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    edited 16 October 2020 at 9:14PM
    Almost nobody puts 3% of a 60/40 portfolio in BitCoin. Either you want to get rich quick or you don't. 3% of your free assets in BitCoin isn't going to change your wealth level even if there is another pump, you're just going to regret not putting in more.
    The risk profile for a 60/40 portfolio is incompatible with an investment in BitCoin and suggests irrational compartmentalisation. If you are risk-seeking enough to be gambling on zero-sum games then why isn't your retirement / long-term fund 100% equities at the very least?

    Not sure to who you talking to here. Fidelity took a most popular portfolio combination and run the numbers. I wish they gave an example with 80/20 and 100/0 portfolio too. That would be more useful to me. But 60/04 is being used a lot in fact. Quick look at Vanguard LifeStrategy shows that it's most popular among LS products with £8.4 Billion invested, while other combinations from 20% up to 100% have from £1.8 Billion up to £5.7 Billion.

    "The risk profile for a 60/40 portfolio is incompatible with an investment in BitCoin and suggests irrational compartmentalisation."
    Fidelity report clearly showed that it is compatible and it improves performance. Not sure what is so hard to understand here.
    But anyway, that's your opinion, that's your right to have one. Unfortunately, you don't have $3 Trillion of assets under management. (oops) :D
  • bowlhead99
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    edited 16 October 2020 at 11:53PM
    pioruns said:

    The risk profile for a 60/40 portfolio is incompatible with an investment in BitCoin and suggests irrational compartmentalisation. If you are risk-seeking enough to be gambling on zero-sum games then why isn't your retirement / long-term fund 100% equities at the very least? 
    Fidelity report clearly showed that it is compatible and it improves performance. Not sure what is so hard to understand here.
    "...showed that it improves performance"?!?

    I think you mean "...that it improved performance" as a past tense event for a highly speculative asset in those particular market conditions, with hindsight.

    Malthusian's sensible point is that if you are the sort of investor seeking a real terms return of a modest 3-4% a year without too much volatility, and have structured a 60:40 portfolio to meet that aim accordingly,  it's not particularly likely that you would be willing to take 3% of your portfolio (an entire year's expected return) and gamble it on a speculative new asset class, knowing the outcome could be anything from, "I've basically thrown three percent of my portfolio in the bin" to "oh look, it's only been half a decade and already that part of my portfolio has gone up five thousand percent"

    But anyway, that's your opinion, that's your right to have one. Unfortunately, you don't have $3 Trillion of assets under management. (oops) D

    As he doesn't already have $3tn of AUM, and isn't facing a client base who have already exhausted the limits of what money they're willing to place with him and his rival conventional asset managers, he hasn't needed to create marketing documents implying that ever more esoteric investment opportunities are the route to investment nirvana.

    So he can simply speak his mind without needing to spin a yarn about how crypto gave a good return over a particular time period so should be relied upon to explode upwards again next rather than implode.

    pioruns said:
    I put a few thousand pounds into an ETC in my pension  in case it grows by another 50x in the next 5 years.

    @bowlhead99 put few thousand pounds into alternative cryptocurrency, for retirement?!! Hell has officially frozen over! :o;)

    Most of my investing is done in my pension simply because that's where most of my investible capital is, for tax reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean I will be holding a particular asset into my late 50s or 90s.

    As a side effect, it's certainly easier for my next of kin to receive my pension pot in the event of my untimely demise - rather than receiving an explanation of what crypto coins are, together with the password to a memory stick containing half a bitcoin in an ewallet with directions on how to register with a crypto exchange to convert it into pounds.
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