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  • greatcrestedgreatcrested Forumite
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    davidmcn said:
    curtis122 said:

    Can you choose to not sell to someone?

    A vendor can choose not to sell to ANYONE.  But they may not (legally not permitted to..) choose not to sell to someone on the grounds of a protected characteristic such as religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, ethnicity etc etc (see the legislation): That would be unlawful discrimination.  But there is lawful discrimination.
    Actually private vendors are only prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race, as long as they're not using an estate agent (I presume on the basis that it would allow bigoted estate agents to hide behind the cloak of "clients' instructions").
    I'm sure you're right- but surprised. What's the legal authority?
    If I include a blue link in my post, click and read it before posting a follow-up question. The answer may be in the link.

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    sincerely a mother of 3 sometimes embarrassing kids, however I'm sure they’ll be 100 times more kind! 
    I'm sure you would have enough of an eye on your sprogs to stop them poking around in the vendor's possessions...?
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    I suggest that the 'friend' should ask that they hold a pre viewing interview, during which they can query how well the potential buyers will look after the house, intentions about any changes they might want to make which may or may not be to the friends liking and most importantly, if they have any annoying kids.

    If the potential buyers pass the interview stage they can then proceed to an actual viewing, with a post viewing debrief.
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    edited 6 July at 11:52PM
    davidmcn said:
    curtis122 said:

    Can you choose to not sell to someone?

    A vendor can choose not to sell to ANYONE.  But they may not (legally not permitted to..) choose not to sell to someone on the grounds of a protected characteristic such as religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, ethnicity etc etc (see the legislation): That would be unlawful discrimination.  But there is lawful discrimination.
    Actually private vendors are only prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race, as long as they're not using an estate agent (I presume on the basis that it would allow bigoted estate agents to hide behind the cloak of "clients' instructions").
    I'm sure you're right- but surprised. What's the legal authority?
    and then some more cross-referencing to figure out the exceptions from the exceptions etc.
    Not sure why race is sacrosanct there but nothing else, perhaps that's just in line with the previous legislation. Note that "publishing an advert" also means you need to respect all the protected characteristics, so if you want to be a bigot then I guess you need to restrict yourself to a sign outside.
    Shelter's website has a clearer summary:
    https://england.shelter.org.uk/legal/courts_and_legal_action/equality_law/equality_act_2010_discrimination_in_relation_to_premises#4
  • Grumpy_chapGrumpy_chap Forumite
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    I suggest that the 'friend' should ask that they hold a pre viewing interview, during which they can query how well the potential buyers will look after the house, intentions about any changes they might want to make which may or may not be to the friends liking and most importantly, if they have any annoying kids.

    If the potential buyers pass the interview stage they can then proceed to an actual viewing, with a post viewing debrief.
    You may well jest, but I was working earlier in the year on a big private estate where the "Estate Committee" do interview any prospective purchasers for suitability.  I would be tempted to Uncle Vlad's private funds, or something equally unsuitable just to see the reaction.
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    davidmcn said:
    Not sure why race is sacrosanct there but nothing else, perhaps that's just in line with the previous legislation. Note that "publishing an advert" also means you need to respect all the protected characteristics, so if you want to be a bigot then I guess you need to restrict yourself to a sign outside.
    Probably because of decades of people doing precisely that.

    Have a google for the infamous 1964 Smethwick campaign poster...
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    curtis122 said:

    My friend is selling her house she had a viewing today a couple came round with their 3 children, 5 times she had to ask the children to put stuff down as they kept picking things up and the parents said nothing and towards the end of the viewing she had to point out one child was missing only to find him opening cupboards and pulling stuff out in the front room and the parents still did nothing and in general along with this she could not wait to get the viewing over and get them out. She is worried now that they may offer as although she is moving she loves her house (location is the issue) and has always wanted it to hopefully go to a someone that is going to look after it and care. She has not found anything yet to buy. Is there a way you can choose to not sell to someone if they just gave you a bad impression or attitude? what if they offer the asking price? I said I can only think of having to accept the offer if its full asking price and hope someone else offers the asking price also then say you want to sell it to them.

    As I was not sure I said I would ask the experts and people on here who may have been in this situation!

    If it was bothering her that much she should have escorted them off the premises and terminated the viewing.
  • The_Earl_of_StreathamThe_Earl_of_Streatham Forumite
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    When I was viewing places a few years ago I used to borrow a friend's kids for a few hours (she was happy to have a morning or afternoon to herself and they were enthusiastic to go somewhere new and have lunch at McD's). I found that their behaviour elicited just the kind of responses from sellers that helped me gauge how much of a pain they'd be down the line. The kids also secured for me a carriage clock and a couple of silver picture frames. As they say, every little helps. And, before anyone gets all worked up, the clock and the picture frames didn't come from the same house. 
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    curtis122 said:

    Can you choose to not sell to someone?



    A vendor can choose not to sell to ANYONE.  But they may not (legally not permitted to..) choose not to sell to someone on the grounds of a protected characteristic such as religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, ethnicity etc etc (see the legislation): That would be unlawful discrimination.  But there is lawful discrimination.
    Sorry pal, but as a private seller that is perfectly legitimate. Can choose to not seel to anyone, based upon any characteristic. There's no legal remedy. 
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    Comms69 said:
    curtis122 said:

    Can you choose to not sell to someone?



    A vendor can choose not to sell to ANYONE.  But they may not (legally not permitted to..) choose not to sell to someone on the grounds of a protected characteristic such as religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, ethnicity etc etc (see the legislation): That would be unlawful discrimination.  But there is lawful discrimination.
    Sorry pal, but as a private seller that is perfectly legitimate. Can choose to not seel to anyone, based upon any characteristic. There's no legal remedy. 
    If I say to you that I won’t sell you my house, without giving reasons, there’s probably nothing you can do about it. 

    If I foolishly say that it is because I don’t like the Scots, say, then I’d expect a lot of trouble.

     I do like the Scots, by the way. It’s just a concrete example. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
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