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And so it begins - Fast food drive through feeding frenzy for PPC's as well
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When the fast food drive through's started re-opening for some strange reason some people flocked to these places resulting in huge queues just for some greasy fried chicken, sitting in a drive through queue for food knows how long, then possibly followed up by munching the stuff in a car park has had the knock on effect of being a gift to the PPCs
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Hungry KFC customers
queuing up at a drive-thru were shocked to be hit with £100 parking
fines for waiting too long in the car park.
The parking charge notices were issued to people who waited longer than
the 75 minutes permitted at the KFC drive-thru in Rock Ferry, the
Wirral.
This was despite long queues which left people with waiting times of up
to two hours or more.
Even though none of the customers were in parking bays, they were
automatically hit with fines because their car registration was caught
on CCTV when they entered the KFC site and when they left, which showed
they had stayed over the maximum time allowed.
The first people knew about it was when a letter landed on their doormat
from private car park operators Civil Enforcement a few days later,
ordering them to pay a £100 parking charge – reduced to £60 if paid
within 14 days.
[/quote]From the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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Could have predicted this would happen. KFC need a barrage of complaints. They should have ordered their dogs to switch the camera off during lockdown relaxation months, but did they? No. Will they do this and cancel PCNs? Yes, I am sure they can, if pressure is applied.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD4 -
Trust it be CEL ???? ..... Sad for CEL, it's back to the food bank for them
We are going to see a lot of these and the nearly bust parking scammers are going to up the scam. We are going to be busy.
Apart from Abuse of process, dodgy fake contracts, fake pictures....... ANPR is not fit for purpose whilst there is social distancing which means extra time required
The judges will have fun
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Its a shame the Car wasnt parked , parking company and its principal has no rights to access process data, KFC ( franchise) in breach of GDPR angle cant be/isnt being pursued
From the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"3 -
People who are stupid enough to eat the disgusting greasy muck served up in such outlets, and even more stupid enough to queue for 2 hours to get it, deserve everything that happens to them.
I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.6 -
As waiting in a queue in a drive though is not parking, DVLA details will have been obtained without due cause. The PPC are going to regret issuing these ticket and KC will have to spend a lot of money dealing with this.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
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I suspect the tickets were given not for parking , but for being on the land in excess of permitted.timeD_P_Dance said:As waiting in a queue in a drive though is not parking, DVLA details will have been obtained without due cause. The PPC are going to regret issuing these ticket and KC will have to spend a lot of money dealing with this.
ANPR cameras do not watch you parking up and exiting your car , they record details of entry to land time and time land exited , this is the reason we have grace periods2 -
I suspect the tickets were given not for parking , but for being on the land in excess of permitted.time
Perhaps, but the permitted time is for parking. The purpose of the car being there was NOT for parking. DVLA details therefore wrongly obtained. imo.
You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
D_P_Dance said:I suspect the tickets were given not for parking , but for being on the land in excess of permitted.time
Perhaps, but the permitted time is for parking. The purpose of the car being there was NOT for parking. DVLA details therefore wrongly obtained. imo.There have been a few cases where it was judged that waiting is not parking, so by its very nature a Parking charge notice was incorrectly issued.A few GDPR claims against landowners ( such as KFC franchisees) may sharpen minds a littleFrom the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"3 -
A few GDPR claims against landowners ( such as KFC franchisees) may sharpen minds a littleYeah, but who's going to do that? Needs more grit and resilience than that displayed by most of the snowflakes who come here who struggle to put anything together unless there's a template, then have to copy and paste it back and ask if it's the correct one.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.#Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street4 -
99.9 of all airport cases are stopping , not parking , the BPA and IPC allow members to access the DVLA for those sites , the DVLA clearly know the locations and reasons ,
but before we get carried away , v888/3 for use by companies that issur parking charges , asks REASON for wanting info , as v888/3 is used for reasons other than parking
the (sad) link shows signage that does not actually state parking , it states "time on land "
and in the (sad) link KFC staff member (kevin) said we will get those fines quoshed , or poshly "Our longer than usual queues did result in a few unfair fines for the car park but we’ve put that right now by cancelling the charges.’" right , kevin2
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