TNC fine paid at the beginning of lockdown and now they what other full

Half_way

nosferatu1001 said:

It will depend on what was agreed over the phone, but we dont know because the OP hasnt told us. 

There is a lot of potentially useful information whic could be used to help that has not been revealed

Was it a part payment, and they have returned and asked for more? ( this has happened before) was there an explicit agreement to pay more at a future date? and even then were they (TNC) entitled to the money in the first place?

Did the OP use the word "fine" when dealing with TNC - if they did and TNC did not correct this " no sir this is not a fine, but a parking charge notice" then there could be scope for deception regardless of what was agreed upon

Did pumkin20 pay by credit card??  if so there could be scope to get the money back, although that would depend upon the above, and the answers to the questions below:

Why did the vehicle receive a parking charge notice in the first place???

Whos car park was it? - London Arsenal shows up a few different places some of which could/would require a very different approach - a location may also be of help here

the OP said this

[quote] "they decided to tell me my fine will increase if I don't pay today" [/quote]

Was the word/term fine used?? although it may seem pedantic, this is important - was this by chance a railway car park? ( see whos car park was it)

Another important step, is that nothing will be increasing, however we need more information form pumkin20

The whole private parking industry relies on smoke and mirrors and people making rash decisions the whole ting is designed to make people panic and trip people up, Pumkin20 may have made a few mistakes, but armed with the right information it could be possible to advise them that they could:

Get their money back that has been lost to TNC

See off any current parking charge notices linked with this

and come out of this whole episode with a bit of knowledge that can be spread amongst friends/family/collogues etc so that more people will be wise to the PPC menace and be able to see through the smoke and mirrors

fisherjim

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

BrownTrout said:

The above poster is completely and utterly wrong 

Completely? Utterly? What part?

As a guess I suspect part payment means you'll have to pay the rest as you have effectively agreed to the contract and it's conditional offer.

TNC COLLECTIONS are not party to any contract , they are simply debt collectos 

Thats fine but by paying part of what's being asked for doesn't that mean the offer and acceptance part of a contract is in place? So whoever the original ppc company is now have grounds for payment?

is there a contract between TNC and the OP , ? if there was , is there a hard copy available , signed , or even an electronic copy  TNC are not in a poswotion to offer a contract , and in fact the fee demanded by the paking co was £100 (max by law)  not the figure they quoted 

How are they not in a position to offer?

The debt collectors are contracted to the PPC not the OP.

Scrapit

fisherjim said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

BrownTrout said:

The above poster is completely and utterly wrong 

Completely? Utterly? What part?

As a guess I suspect part payment means you'll have to pay the rest as you have effectively agreed to the contract and it's conditional offer.

TNC COLLECTIONS are not party to any contract , they are simply debt collectos 

Thats fine but by paying part of what's being asked for doesn't that mean the offer and acceptance part of a contract is in place? So whoever the original ppc company is now have grounds for payment?

is there a contract between TNC and the OP , ? if there was , is there a hard copy available , signed , or even an electronic copy  TNC are not in a poswotion to offer a contract , and in fact the fee demanded by the paking co was £100 (max by law)  not the figure they quoted 

How are they not in a position to offer?

The debt collectors are contracted to the PPC not the OP.

So what has the OP accepted in principle by paying?

twhitehousescat

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

BrownTrout said:

The above poster is completely and utterly wrong 

Completely? Utterly? What part?

As a guess I suspect part payment means you'll have to pay the rest as you have effectively agreed to the contract and it's conditional offer.

TNC COLLECTIONS are not party to any contract , they are simply debt collectos 

Thats fine but by paying part of what's being asked for doesn't that mean the offer and acceptance part of a contract is in place? So whoever the original ppc company is now have grounds for payment?

is there a contract between TNC and the OP , ? if there was , is there a hard copy available , signed , or even an electronic copy  TNC are not in a poswotion to offer a contract , and in fact the fee demanded by the paking co was £100 (max by law)  not the figure they quoted 

How are they not in a position to offer?

ok you win 

Half_way

Scrapit said:

fisherjim said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

BrownTrout said:

The above poster is completely and utterly wrong 

Completely? Utterly? What part?

As a guess I suspect part payment means you'll have to pay the rest as you have effectively agreed to the contract and it's conditional offer.

TNC COLLECTIONS are not party to any contract , they are simply debt collectos 

Thats fine but by paying part of what's being asked for doesn't that mean the offer and acceptance part of a contract is in place? So whoever the original ppc company is now have grounds for payment?

is there a contract between TNC and the OP , ? if there was , is there a hard copy available , signed , or even an electronic copy  TNC are not in a poswotion to offer a contract , and in fact the fee demanded by the paking co was £100 (max by law)  not the figure they quoted 

How are they not in a position to offer?

The debt collectors are contracted to the PPC not the OP.

So what has the OP accepted in principle by paying?

We dont know - its upto the OP ( original poster) to state.

 If they have been deceived into paying something they dont have to then there is some scope here to get the money back. But without the information form the OP there isnt much that can be done for further help, and this scrappy arguing is also far from helpful

Scrapit

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

BrownTrout said:

The above poster is completely and utterly wrong 

Completely? Utterly? What part?

As a guess I suspect part payment means you'll have to pay the rest as you have effectively agreed to the contract and it's conditional offer.

TNC COLLECTIONS are not party to any contract , they are simply debt collectos 

Thats fine but by paying part of what's being asked for doesn't that mean the offer and acceptance part of a contract is in place? So whoever the original ppc company is now have grounds for payment?

is there a contract between TNC and the OP , ? if there was , is there a hard copy available , signed , or even an electronic copy  TNC are not in a poswotion to offer a contract , and in fact the fee demanded by the paking co was £100 (max by law)  not the figure they quoted 

How are they not in a position to offer?

ok you win 

It's not a matter of winning, it's a matter of knowledge. Do you know that they cannot offer? I suspect they can by the fact that the OP can accept in the form of payment. Note, suspect. The question is asked so someone with that knowledge can respond. That may or may not be yourself, however there is no "winning" and posts of that nature are counterproductive.

Scrapit

Half_way said:

Scrapit said:

fisherjim said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

twhitehousescat said:

Scrapit said:

BrownTrout said:

The above poster is completely and utterly wrong 

Completely? Utterly? What part?

As a guess I suspect part payment means you'll have to pay the rest as you have effectively agreed to the contract and it's conditional offer.

TNC COLLECTIONS are not party to any contract , they are simply debt collectos 

Thats fine but by paying part of what's being asked for doesn't that mean the offer and acceptance part of a contract is in place? So whoever the original ppc company is now have grounds for payment?

is there a contract between TNC and the OP , ? if there was , is there a hard copy available , signed , or even an electronic copy  TNC are not in a poswotion to offer a contract , and in fact the fee demanded by the paking co was £100 (max by law)  not the figure they quoted 

How are they not in a position to offer?

The debt collectors are contracted to the PPC not the OP.

So what has the OP accepted in principle by paying?

We dont know - its upto the OP ( original poster) to state.

 If they have been deceived into paying something they dont have to then there is some scope here to get the money back. But without the information form the OP there isnt much that can be done for further help, and this scrappy arguing is also far from helpful

By virture of silencing the ppc via their agent(TNC) by paying has the OP not satisfied the original contract, regardless of if it was correct or not? Also, no arguing here, just discussion which will be of value.

Coupon-mad

No person who has paid something to a debt crawler on this forum, has ever had to pay any more.  We've seen this scenario several times (not hundreds, because most people don't fall for it).  TNC are toothless.

The OP should do a chargeback on their card to get the £85 back if they are still within the 90 days.

KeithP

Coupon-mad said:

The OP should do a chargeback on their card to get the £85 back if they are still within the 90 days.

Pssst... the chargeback time limit is 120 days. 

Coupon-mad

Better than I thought!