We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Salary or variable wage

Hi
I am about to claim the furlough grant for one employee via my book keeper. I pay him £132 per day for 5 days a week on a calender monthly basis regardless of hours worked and without bonuses or overtime. My view is that he should be considered to be on a salary for the reasons outlined, but my book keeper states that because there are different working days each month he is on a variable wage. This makes quite a difference on the furlough calculation because he had a large pay rise last November. 
Opinions would be welcome. 
Thanks

Comments

  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,813 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    The Treasury Directive defines a fixed rate employee as follows:
    "7.6 A person is a fixed rate employee if-
    (a) the person is an employee or treated as an employee for the purposes of CJRS by virtue of paragraph 13.3(a) (member of a limited liability partnership),
    (b) the person is entitled under their contract to be paid an annual salary,
    (c) the person is entitled under their contract to be paid that salary in respect of a number of hours in a year whether those hours are specified in or ascertained in accordance with their contract (“the basic hours”),
    (d) the person is not entitled under their contract to a payment in respect of the basic hours other than an annual salary,
    (e) the person is entitled under their contract to be paid, where practicable and regardless of the number of hours actually worked in a particular week or month in equal weekly, multiple of weeks or monthly instalments (“the salary period”), and
    (f) the basic hours worked in a salary period do not normally vary according to business, economic or agricultural seasonal considerations."
    I think you are right.
  • Thanks for the quick reply
  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The Treasury Directive defines a fixed rate employee as follows:
    "7.6 A person is a fixed rate employee if-
    (a) the person is an employee or treated as an employee for the purposes of CJRS by virtue of paragraph 13.3(a) (member of a limited liability partnership),
    (b) the person is entitled under their contract to be paid an annual salary,
    (c) the person is entitled under their contract to be paid that salary in respect of a number of hours in a year whether those hours are specified in or ascertained in accordance with their contract (“the basic hours”),
    (d) the person is not entitled under their contract to a payment in respect of the basic hours other than an annual salary,
    (e) the person is entitled under their contract to be paid, where practicable and regardless of the number of hours actually worked in a particular week or month in equal weekly, multiple of weeks or monthly instalments (“the salary period”), and
    (f) the basic hours worked in a salary period do not normally vary according to business, economic or agricultural seasonal considerations."
    I think you are right.
    Doesn’t reference in (e) to equal monthly instalments and regardless of hours actually worked mean that in this case the employee does not fit the description.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Jeremy535897
    Jeremy535897 Posts: 10,813 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    The only thing that doesn't fit the description is that he's paid £132 per day added up over the calendar month. If he was paid £660 a week he'd fit the description perfectly. I think he looks much more like a fixed rate employee than a variable pay employee.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.6K Life & Family
  • 261.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.