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Vulnerable Children Not Protected.

edited 30 November -1 at 12:00AM in Discussion Time
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  • choillechoille Forumite
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    I said it was a factor - by which I mean that it is widely reported.

    I'm still unclear as to what you think the factors are?

    Blind eyes being turned - just as they were with Jimmy Saville.
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    I get fed up with !!!!! footing around and it's quite clear the demographic were Pakistani men.. not specifically a muslim problem, more a cultural problem.

    Police were stuck half the time as they knew what was happening, the victims were afraid and their backgrounds were questionable through no fault of their own and felt they wouldn't be believed because of it .

    It doesn't matter who was in government as it really was for social services, council and police of that area to have done something

    Too many cry racism even though it' was clear as the nose on ones face , male Pakistanis have complete disregard for females and culturally far different than others in the asian community

    My problem not only is with those who do this heinous crime but those in the community who keep quiet, they are just as guilty.

    The heavy hand of the law must come down on offenders and those who are suspected, it isn't hard to find the information out there .
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    It doesn't matter who was in government as it really was for social services, council and police of that area to have done something

    I completely agree, and I've only blamed the Labour Council and the Labour Government because Choille tried to make this a party political issue in the opening post (as they so often do).

    Keep party politics and personalities out of these topics, and we could have a much better discussion.
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    My problem not only is with those who do this heinous crime but those in the community who keep quiet, they are just as guilty.

    The community, as in people not in the police or social services probably didn't know what was going on. Look at the Christian guy in the news recently for drugging and raping at least 200 victims in Manchester. He was by all accounts a popular person who found his victims on a busy street and carried out his crimes in a busy student accommodation block. The community didn't have a clue. Nobody in the community knows what's going on behind closed doors except the people behind them.
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    Yet another asian grooming gang.Tommy robinson will no doubt be making remarks about it.
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    edited 15 January at 4:43PM
    Tallaght wrote: »
    Yet another asian grooming gang.Tommy robinson will no doubt be making remarks about it.

    IMHO, most people should be making remarks about it, as it's a continuing disgrace on UK society, with a criminal lack of action by those people that are supposed to protect our children, largely because of their fear of offending certain race groups!

    The report was very clear indeed, with no clarification required, whatsoever! What's not to understand?!
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    Nick_C wrote: »
    I completely agree, and I've only blamed the Labour Council and the Labour Government because Choille tried to make this a party political issue in the opening post (as they so often do).

    Keep party politics and personalities out of these topics, and we could have a much better discussion.

    What I did in the opening post was question Mr B Johnson's language and reaction to investigating past child abuse - which he described as spaffing money up the wall.
    Those remarks were of no comfort to the relatives of the girl who is dead nor to the 'victims' of child rape.
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    IMHO, most people should be making remarks about it, as it's a continuing disgrace on UK society, with a criminal lack of action by those people that are supposed to protect our children, largely because of their fear of offending certain race groups!

    The report was very clear indeed, with no clarification required, whatsoever! What's not to understand?!

    Is that what the report said?
  • Jonathan_KelvinJonathan_Kelvin Forumite
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    choille wrote: »
    That is exactly what is not the issue here and if you would have watched Ch 4 News you would understand that is a very base red herring. The real issue is that these children were not protected. Whether it was Jimmy Saville or a group of Asian men - these children were not protected and anger is at the Asian community when it should be at the authorities who knew about this. It is quite sinister that the investigation was shut down.
    It would be strange to be more angry at the groups who failed to stop the crimes than those who committed them, and continue to do so.

    You have to wonder how it is possible for any group to set up such a large network, specifically for the purpose of child rape, and for no-one from the community to report it.

    If a friend or associate of mine asked if I’d like to join a club that groomed, drugged, and raped children I’d decline, and inform the police.
  • Jonathan_KelvinJonathan_Kelvin Forumite
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    ruperts wrote: »
    The community, as in people not in the police or social services probably didn't know what was going on. Look at the Christian guy in the news recently for drugging and raping at least 200 victims in Manchester. He was by all accounts a popular person who found his victims on a busy street and carried out his crimes in a busy student accommodation block. The community didn't have a clue. Nobody in the community knows what's going on behind closed doors except the people behind them.
    He acted alone, it is disingenuous to compare this to tens or hundreds of people being involved who would all need to have a way to ask others to join in while knowing that those asked would say yes, or say no but keep it quiet.

    It would simply not be possible in every other cultural group in the UK, which is why 100% of these sort of cases comes from one demographic.
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