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Labour Leadership Contest : Poll

edited 12 January at 8:00PM in Discussion Time
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    edited 13 January at 12:48PM
    Ed Miliband has formally nominated Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner:

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    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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    choille wrote: »
    There has yet to be a conclusion from the enquiry into the reasons for the result of the election. It will be interesting to see what that is - easy to assume but until the enquiry concludes then we won't know.

    Who's conducting the enquiry? If it's Labour it seems somewhat pointless to me, they're hardly likely to admit it was because of their unpopular policies and poor choice of leader now, are they?
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    Gavin83 wrote: »
    Who's conducting the enquiry? If it's Labour it seems somewhat pointless to me, they're hardly likely to admit it was because of their unpopular policies and poor choice of leader now, are they?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/23/labour-mps-from-all-wings-of-party-launch-inquiry-into-election-defeat

    It's not a case of admitting anything. It's a genuine attempt to find out what happened so that lessons are learned. That is the reason to have one.

    There is no evidence that their policies were unpopular - you are just assuming that. The members vote for the leader. They did that twice to a massive majority for Jeremy Corbyn. It's called democracy.
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    ... the DM etc will label him one of the metropolitan elite, 'forgetting' that his father was a toolmaker and mother a nurse.

    Keir Starmer's success represents an achievement that many, if not most would like for their children.

    I'm not sure being a Knight of the Realm will do his image any good. Interesting that he is trying to drop the "Sir" when it suits him. Maybe he shouldn't have accepted the title in the first place.

    Sir Keir is lucky to have enjoyed a Grammar School education. Something the Labour Party has prevented most bright young kids from working class backgrounds from benefiting from.

    If I had a vote, it would be for Nandy or Phillips. Probably Nandy.

    I would not vote Labour if Sir Keir was party leader. It's over 60 years since we had a "Sir" seeking to become PM; not something I want to see again.
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    Nick_C wrote: »
    Sir Keir is lucky to have enjoyed a Grammar School education. Something the Labour Party has prevented most bright young kids from working class backgrounds from benefiting from.

    Genuine question - is Starmer anti-grammar school?

    Given his background I would have thought he'd be one of the few in the party who saw value in them as a mechanism for social mobility...
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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    choille wrote: »
    .....It's not a case of admitting anything. It's a genuine attempt to find out what happened so that lessons are learned.......
    A six year old could tell anybody why labour didn't walk the election. It was the cockamamy Brexit policy argued for by remainers and momentum that hung us.

    I shall make my arguments at the CLP tomorrow, and make my preferences known only when ballot papers are printed..._
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    My moneys on Long-Bailey and the other haridan, which should ensure many years in the wilderness for Labour and deprive them of this households votes for an equal amount of time.
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    DiggerUK wrote: »
    A six year old could tell anybody why labour didn't walk the election. It was the cockamamy Brexit policy argued for by remainers and momentum that hung us.

    I shall make my arguments at the CLP tomorrow, and make my preferences known only when ballot papers are printed..._

    I agree with the Brexit policy but don't underestimate the negative impact of Corbyn. While idolised many (particularly young) he was not liked/supported by a much greater number for a variety of reasons including the historic baggage of being seen as not patriotic. I don't believe any of the contenders will have that massive disadvantage.
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    choille wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/23/labour-mps-from-all-wings-of-party-launch-inquiry-into-election-defeat

    It's not a case of admitting anything. It's a genuine attempt to find out what happened so that lessons are learned. That is the reason to have one.

    There is no evidence that their policies were unpopular - you are just assuming that. The members vote for the leader. They did that twice to a massive majority for Jeremy Corbyn. It's called democracy.


    I think it fair to say there is at least one event we could refer to as being...um...slightly evidenc-y??
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    Momentum have probably already chosen the new leader.

    If they have and it is Long-Bailey then they have learned nothing from the recent election results.

    Unless they just want to be a protest movement.
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