UKPC Parking Charge at 2nd Debt Recovery Letter Stage (notice of intended court action)

UKPC_OAP_Stresser

Sorry to post a new thread, but I've read a ton of posts and can't find the answer I'm looking for.

My elderly father in law is panicking as he's received a debt collection letter from Debt Recovery Plus on behalf of UK Parking Control Ltd (UKPC).

Researching into this further it seems that UKPC had previously issued a letter but he was confused by the claim & thought it was a scammer trying to extort money from an OAP.

The original UKPC letter had a website & login details which provide more pictures/evidence of the breach of parking terms. Their claim is that the car was not parked properly within the markings of the bay. Pictures seem to corroborate this, however, markings are hard to see (a different shade of brick rather than painted lines), especially for an 84 year old.

What's more signage at the car park is difficult to read, especially for an OAP whose first language isn't English.

Pictures also show there were practically no cars in the car park at the time and ample parking for other drivers.

Pictures do show a ticket on the car.

UKPC have somehow obtained full name & address of the registered keeper (I assume from DVLC?)

Original date of offence: 17/9/19
First UKPC letter date: 18/10/19
First Debt Recovery Plus letter: 5/12/19 (action to be taken by 19/12/19)

Original fine: £100
Now: £160

He's now had a 2nd letter from Debt Recovery Plus dated 24/12/19 stating a "notice of intended court action" if he doesn't pay by 7/1/20 (today!) & is now panicking that it's legitimate & that he now has no option other than to pay this extortionate fine, which is why he's flagged it with me.

Any help would massively appreciated. Not sure if it's too late, or whether he has options.

Thanks in advance.

The_Deep

UKPC are fraudsters, read this,

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html

That extra £60 is unlawful, read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal

What's more signage at the car park is difficult to read, especially for an OAP with poor eyesight,

Best not to mention poor eyesight if said OAP was driving.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.[/FONT][/FONT]

Ralph-y

"he was confused by the claim & thought it was a scammer trying to extort money from an OAP."


they where ....




as above you are at the point of waiting to see if they try court.




there will be plenty for you to read up on ...

go to the newbies thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822/newbies-private-parking-ticket-old-or-new-read-these-faqs-first-thankyou


and have a good read ...


where did this dastardly deed take place ? supermarket , doctors , retail park ?



because the only ( and quickest) way to sort this out in the short term is a shop, landlord, owner complaint.



"He's now had a 2nd letter from Debt Recovery Plus"


please let your dad know that if I demand £££ off him I would have the same powers as a debt collector .... you will read this and more in the newbies thread ...


other info ....




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good luck


Ralph:cool:

waamo

This is not a genuine threat of court. A genuine threat has to give you 30 days to pay and must contain financial information forms. One may follow though.

Can you ask the landowners to cancel? They have the power to cancel it.

UKPC_OAP_Stresser

go to the newbies thread

and have a good read ...

Thanks for your reply - I read through the newbies post prior to posting - couldn't figure out from all the info on there which actions we could/should now take, given we're beyond appeal timeline to UKPC & are already at threat of court stage. Still confused by this tbh.

where did this dastardly deed take place ? supermarket , doctors , retail park ?

Retail park. So we still have time to appeal to them to see if they can have it overturned?

Thanks a million. Apologies if these seem like repetitive questions; there's so much info it's hard to figure out best next steps at the stage we're at.

Ralph-y

"Retail park. So we still have time to appeal to them to see if they can have it overturned?"


yes complain to every shop you used ( both local managers not customer service , and head office CEO's) and if they won't help ask them for the landlord/land owner name



Ralph:cool:

Coupon-mad

You are not appealing, you are complaining as the NEWBIES thread tells you to do.

Le_Kirk

You shouldn't be revealing details about the quality of someone's eyesight on a public forum as anyone with the level you seem to be indicating should not be driving! Notwithstanding that, follow the instructions and advice given.

beamerguy

Original date of offence: 17/9/19
First UKPC letter date: 18/10/19
First Debt Recovery Plus letter: 5/12/19 (action to be taken by 19/12/19)

Original fine: £100
Now: £160

He's now had a 2nd letter from Debt Recovery Plus dated 24/12/19 stating a "notice of intended court action" if he doesn't pay by 7/1/20 (today!) & is now panicking that it's legitimate & that he now has no option other than to pay this extortionate fine, which is why he's flagged it with me.

Trust us, DRP are blatant liars who live in the sewers and nobody talks to sewer life, let alone the nutters at DRP

JUST READ THIS
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5859454/debt-collectors-drp-zzps-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know&highlight=debt+collectors+drp

Take no notice. If UKPC want to take it further they will, then come back here. DRP are just a meaningless parasite

UKPC_OAP_Stresser

Take no notice. If UKPC want to take it further they will, then come back here. DRP are just a meaningless parasite

Thanks, that's reassuring.

UKPC_OAP_Stresser

Le_Kirk wrote: »

You shouldn't be revealing details about the quality of someone's eyesight on a public forum as anyone with the level you seem to be indicating should not be driving! Notwithstanding that, follow the instructions and advice given.

Fair point, duly amended. TBH his sight is fine; guilty of exaggeration for effect. Point really is that the fine print on the signage is small enough at 10 ft in the air for him not to be able to read clearly.