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Boris 114

edited 13 June 2019 at 1:11PM in Discussion Time
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  • .string..string. Forumite
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    onlyroz wrote: »
    :rotfl: So name me his biggest achievements as mayor? Was it the water cannons? Or perhaps the Garden Bridge? Or maybe the Boris Bikes, an idea he stole from Ken Livingston?

    Being elected for the second time is probably his most important achievement as far as the Conservative Party is concerned. They want a winner to prevent a Labour/SNP Coalition.

    As far as a detailed Boris achievement, I really have not followed London events particularly closely and, as is common with many here in this thread, certainty not the detail of it, but presumably the majority of Londoners thought he had done a good job.

    There s a reasonable argument to favour the candidate who can bring disparate views together and has overwhelming support. At the moment, on that criteria, Boris looks likely.

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to this public debate next week to see which PM-hopeful I would actually like to see win.
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    .string..string. Forumite
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    edited 15 June 2019 at 11:51AM
    Ted_Bloke wrote: »
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    Thank you, I had meant to mention but forgot the change of guard in Brussels, I have now incorporated your reminder.

    I was just reacting. Yesterday's news seemed like it was all over bar the shouting (for election of Tory leader, that is, The little matter of Brexit would be ongoing). But forcing a televised confrontation where you actually talk about real policies however superficially is apparently part of a fight back, and is taking him on a weak point

    As you say, winning elections is key. That is the main reason he would win this election would be that he is considered to have the best chances of winning another, a general election.

    PR is a lot of what the London Mayor's job is about. I have been reading that he did that bit well enough, spent a lot on vanity projects like the garden bridge which never happened, however London is now lacking a bridge with the closure of Hammersmith bridge; he didn't get any affordable housing built, I read that the show in London was kept on the road by an eminence grise or 'Boris's brain' whose name hardly anyone knows. Probably will not turn out to make any difference to anything, just saying.

    He did box himself in by promising Brexit by October. It will be embarrassing and needful of distraction at The late September Party Congress where he will probably be short of a triumph in Brussels to announce. That is probably when we shall begin to hear in the press of the 'Ditch Boris' movement, as we have with every PM I can remember.

    Yes - I agree with your points; see also my post above,

    On the boxing-in, yes that's true although I would imagine he wishes to give credence to his "agree-or-no deal" approach to EU Negotiation (if there is anyone there to sit down with of course).


    In order to leave with a deal he has to base that on May's deal; there are so many issues dealt with (sorted in other words) that it would be foolish to throw them all away. With 2 exceptions they are essentially transitory arrangement for a transition period.

    IF an agreement for the withdrawal was reached in good faith, there would probably be no need for a delay in the actual Brexit date. Nothing would actually stop either side from tidying up the formalities afterwards with interim arrangements in place to keep the status quo until the transition phase formally began.

    Edit: I forgot to mention what the two exceptions; they are of course the Irish Border thing and the future trade arrangement.
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  • adindasadindas Forumite
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    You forgot London Olympic
    He beat Ken Livingstone twice and elected for the second time as London Major.


    Also He is defenitely a much better than Teresa May. Theresa May left UK be humiliated.


    .string. wrote: »
    Being elected for the second time is probably his most important achievement as far as the Conservative Party is concerned. They want a winner to prevent a Labour/SNP Coalition.

    As far as a detailed Boris achievement, I really have not followed London events particularly closely and, as is common with many here in this thread, certainty not the detail of it, but presumably the majority of Londoners thought he had done a good job.

    There s a reasonable argument to favour the candidate who can bring disparate views together and has overwhelming support. At the moment, on that criteria, Boris looks likely.

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to this public debate next week to see which PM-hopeful I would actually like to see win.
  • MothballsWalletMothballsWallet Forumite
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    VfM4meplse wrote: »
    OMG I was nearly sick when I heard Pritti Patel defend BoJo "robustly" earlier. She's like a brainwashed handmaid.

    I am ashamed to share a county with her :o
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  • melburymelbury Forumite
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    onlyroz wrote: »
    :rotfl: So name me his biggest achievements as mayor? Was it the water cannons? Or perhaps the Garden Bridge? Or maybe the Boris Bikes, an idea he stole from Ken Livingston?

    So if he was that bad why did he get elected a second time?
    Stopped smoking 27/12/2007, but could start again at any time :eek:

  • melburymelbury Forumite
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    VfM4meplse wrote: »
    OMG I was nearly sick when I heard Pritti Patel defend BoJo "robustly" earlier. She's like a brainwashed handmaid.

    I am ashamed to share a county with her :o

    Why?

    She just wants Brexit to happen and I don't think anybody else will get it done:)
    Stopped smoking 27/12/2007, but could start again at any time :eek:

  • onlyrozonlyroz Forumite
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    melbury wrote: »
    So if he was that bad why did he get elected a second time?
    Perhaps his big achievement was just letting things coast along. If he does that as PM then he might do OK. I suspect, though, that he’ll eventually open his mouth and “do a Trump”, further embarrassing and humiliating the British people.
  • melbury wrote: »
    So if he was that bad why did he get elected a second time?
    Harold Wilson was elected 4 times.
  • kabayirikabayiri Forumite
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    It seems pointless to try and critique BoJo as a candidate from a neutral stance.

    You have to consider how the average Tory party member will see things.

    As with the choice of May, they might not get it right ... I thought she would be something which she turned out not to be.

    BoJo could be similar. Only time will tell.
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    End result its up to the party members who wins out of the last two .
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