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Is it legal to remove DPF on 2012 Mondeo?

gord115
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My work colleague has had problems with the DPF blocking up on his 2012 Mondeo.

He has had the DPF removed and been told it is only illegal to remove the DPF on cars made in 2014 or later.

Is this correct?
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  • angrycrow
    angrycrow Posts: 1,103 Forumite
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    No it is not OK to remove the dpf filter from any car. See below from the current MOT manual.

    "8.2.2 Compression ignition engine emissions
    8.2.2.1 Exhaust emission control equipment
    You only need to check components that are visible and identifiable, such as diesel oxidation catalysts, diesel particulate filters, exhaust gas recirculation valves and selective catalytic reduction valves.

    If a diesel particulate filter has clearly been cut open and rewelded, you should reject it unless the vehicle presenter can show evidence that there was a valid reason to cut it open, such as for filter cleaning.

    Defect Category
    Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer missing, obviously modified or obviously defective
    Major
    An induction or exhaust leak that could affect emissions levels
    Major
    Evidence that the diesel particulate filter has been tampered with"
  • AdrianC
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    There's two aspects to "Is it legal?", at least as far as MOT goes.

    1. Will it pass the emissions smoke opacity check?
    2. Can the tester see the DPF has been fiddled with?

    There may also be Construction and Use issues.

    Lemme guess - he doesn't use it much for longer, harder journeys, so it never gets the chance to regenerate?
  • daveyjp
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    At 7 years old the DPF may be due for replacement anyway. They don't last forever and block with ash overtime.
  • sevenhills
    sevenhills Posts: 5,938 Forumite
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    I am thinking about buying a diesel with 100/130,000 miles, do they emit more pollution with age?
  • gord115
    gord115 Posts: 1,070 Forumite
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    Lemme guess - he doesn't use it much for longer, harder journeys, so it never gets the chance to regenerate?[/QUOTE]

    Yeah,when he bought it 3 months ago,I told him he'd have problems.

    He said he was told by the dealer that particular engine didn't have a DPF.

    I told him he was wrong,now he knows he was.
  • System
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    edited 5 June 2019 at 6:22AM
    daveyjp wrote: »
    At 7 years old the DPF may be due for replacement anyway. They don't last forever and block with ash overtime.

    Mine is 9 years old on 144,000 miles with no issues, sensor readings show no blockage, it happily does a regen every 400-600km. I drive a 44 tonne truck on over half a million miles and the dashboard gauge for the DPF filter usage shows 0%.

    Joys of having diesel vehicles and using them for the right types of journey they should be doing, not pottering around town.
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    I am thinking about buying a diesel with 100/130,000 miles, do they emit more pollution with age?

    Only if they've not been maintained properly like any car.
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  • forgotmyname
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    Its legal to remove it, but illegal to drive it on the road with it removed and should fail the MOT with it removed.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • sevenhills
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    Tarambor wrote: »
    I drive a 44 tonne truck on over half a million miles and the dashboard gauge for the DPF filter usage shows 0%.
    Joys of having diesel vehicles and using them for the right types of journey they should be doing, not pottering around town.


    I have read that its much easier to reduce polution from large vehicles because they have unlimited space for Adblu or a DPF and the cost of less than a £1,000 is a large amount when buying a £8,000 car but much smaller when you think about the price of a 44 tonne truck.
  • AdrianC
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    I have read that its much easier to reduce polution from large vehicles because they have unlimited space for Adblu or a DPF and the cost of less than a £1,000 is a large amount when buying a £8,000 car but much smaller when you think about the price of a 44 tonne truck.
    "Unlimited" might be a bit strong, but certainly retro-fitting emissions kit is a lot easier (and economically viable) on a wagon than a car. Which is why retro-fitted kit renders wagons eligible for the London LEZ, but there's no such exemption for cars for the ULEZ.
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