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UKCPM - All appeals must be done by postal?

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  • iWindmill
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    Search the forum for a name of a case in it such as 'Alder' if it's in your one.  

    Or search the forum for the name of the signatory of the WS.
    Thanks, I found one example and it is very similar. I do have a paragraph written by Jack Chapman claiming that I did not respond to their LBC letter, and I'm very sure I did. I will go home later today and hopefully find a receipt I kept as a proof that I did respond to LBC. Otherwise, how can I prove this?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 20 May 2020 at 5:12PM
    Have a look but don't bust a gut.  Search the forum now, for UKCPM Jack Chapman SRA.

    There are about a hundred threads, not one!  You need to read from 2019 and copy the SRA complaint everyone has been making in these exact same threads.  Do the search, make a cuppa and read the threads about his signature.  We want you to add to the ongoing complaint about Gladstones and this template WS, not written by Jack, all the evidence suggests.
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  • iWindmill
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    Have a look but don't bust a gut.  Search the forum now, for UKCPM Jack Chapman SRA.

    There are about a hundred threads, not one!  You need to read from 2019 and copy the SRA complaint everyone has been making in these exact same threads.  Do the search, make a cuppa and read the threads about his signature.  We want you to add to the ongoing complaint about Gladstones and this template WS, not written by Jack, all the evidence suggests.
    Thanks. Interestingly enough there is a clear photograph of the signage included in the WST, this photograph was not provided to me during SAR or during appeal stage. Their original photograph is blurry and illegible, so they slid in a clear photograph that I've never seen before, until they included it into their WST. Is this normal?
  • Umkomaas
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    iWindmill said:
    Have a look but don't bust a gut.  Search the forum now, for UKCPM Jack Chapman SRA.

    There are about a hundred threads, not one!  You need to read from 2019 and copy the SRA complaint everyone has been making in these exact same threads.  Do the search, make a cuppa and read the threads about his signature.  We want you to add to the ongoing complaint about Gladstones and this template WS, not written by Jack, all the evidence suggests.
    Thanks. Interestingly enough there is a clear photograph of the signage included in the WST, this photograph was not provided to me during SAR or during appeal stage. Their original photograph is blurry and illegible, so they slid in a clear photograph that I've never seen before, until they included it into their WST. Is this normal?
    They were within their rights not to copy you the signage in their SAR response as the sign contained no personal information about you. They are required to reveal anything they wish to rely on in court in their WS. They have complied with that in respect of the signage. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 22 May 2020 at 12:17AM
    Please post back when you've read about ten Jack Chapman UKCPM SRA threads and drafted your SRA complaint email, and got your head around the issues relating to this WS, which we can't start posting about again here from scratch!
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  • Fruitcake
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    Please also show us their WS including their alleged contract with the landowner if it has been included. 
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  • iWindmill
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    edited 6 June 2020 at 2:28PM
    Fruitcake said:
    Please also show us their WS including their alleged contract with the landowner if it has been included. 
    Their WST can be found here here - please excuse the messiness, it was scanned by the court and sent to me since I did not receive a copy from the claimant.
    I've tried to black out all sensitive data so please let me know if I've missed any.

    Please post back when you;ve read about ten Jack Chapman UKCPM SRA threads and drafted your SRA complaint email, and got your head around the issues relating to this WS, which we can;t strat posting about again here from scratch!
    I will get on this right now. I've been a bit busy with work during the pandemic. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

    Umkomaas said:
    iWindmill said:
    Have a look but don't bust a gut.  Search the forum now, for UKCPM Jack Chapman SRA.

    There are about a hundred threads, not one!  You need to read from 2019 and copy the SRA complaint everyone has been making in these exact same threads.  Do the search, make a cuppa and read the threads about his signature.  We want you to add to the ongoing complaint about Gladstones and this template WS, not written by Jack, all the evidence suggests.
    Thanks. Interestingly enough there is a clear photograph of the signage included in the WST, this photograph was not provided to me during SAR or during appeal stage. Their original photograph is blurry and illegible, so they slid in a clear photograph that I've never seen before, until they included it into their WST. Is this normal?
    They were within their rights not to copy you the signage in their SAR response as the sign contained no personal information about you. They are required to reveal anything they wish to rely on in court in their WS. They have complied with that in respect of the signage. 
    This makes so much sense, I understand now. Thanks.
  • Castle
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    You have left your name on the WST
  • iWindmill
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    edited 21 May 2020 at 6:41PM
    I've found only 2 SRA examples, but have ready many Jack Chapman SRA related threads and can see quite a lot of people are in the same boat. I'd imagine SRA has received many emails related to Jack Chapman! So I kept my SRA short and identical to the most recent one I could find:-

    FTAO
    David Clare
    Investigation Officer
    Solicitors Regulation Authority

    Dear Mr Clare,

    Re: Gladstones Solicitors Limited, Warrington Road, High Legh, Knutsford, WA16 6AA (SRA ID 559050)

    I understand that a complaint has been made under your ref POL/1278102-2019, and a current investigation is underway that suggests the firm may have been in breach of the SRA's standards or requirements and that the allegations have been deemed serious enough to warrant further investigation.

    I am unconnected to the previous complainant but have been informed about his complaint, where template witness statements have been submitted by this solicitor firm, with identical wording and case law cited which are not only not true witness statements from their client at all, but where it is clear in at least one case, that 'Jack Chapman' could not have signed it.

    I too have received a Witness Statement with the same facsimile signature.

    Please note that I provide this (specific to my case) information for your investigation only - but not so that it can be shared with Gladstones at this stage - as my case is ongoing with an imminent hearing, and I have no duty to point out the other side's errors prior to the hearing. I would like to ask that you also consider my case in your investigation, but please do not show Gladstones that specific error about the wrong landowner contract.

    It seems clear that Gladstones' administrative staff have written and produced this Witness Statement, not Jack Chapman of the Claimant firm. Any company employee witness looking through their statement with due diligence before signing it in real time, would not have appended a completely different contract for the wrong car park location.

    The 'witness statement' itself is almost an exact match template for those used by Gladstones in all parking cases they take to court (tens of thousands per year) and the same template is in the public domain hundreds of times on the internet and it is clear it is written by the solicitor firm, not the client.

    Moreover, I understand you have already been shown a copy of a job advert where Gladstones were very recently advertising for freelance statement writers, working from home, which clearly indicates that their business model involves churning out template ''witness statements'' which appear to be false instruments with little or no input from any actual witnesses.

    What concerns me most is that Gladstones is doing this for all UKCPM cases, and it seems likely they do this for other parking firms too, given the amount of robo-claims handled for the industry by this firm.

    More generally, Gladstones operate under a conflict of interests, having been well known to have shared Directors with the parking Trade Body, the IPC. Gladstones and the IPC appear to conspire to encourage member parking firms to operate in a cartel-like fashion, adding £60 'damages' to each claim (which they are aware cannot be recovered due to para 4(5) of Schedule 4 of the POFA 2012, and paragraphs 6, 10 and 14 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 'grey list' of unfair terms, and indeed the ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis Supreme Court case, in which paras 98, 193 and 198 make it clear any costs are already absorbed in a parking charge). The self-serving IPC has recently updated its Code of Practice to stretch the rules to make this added £60 appear allowable and as usual, the wording in the 'witness statement' I received, uses Gladstones' template wording to try to justify it. The unreasonable conduct and conflict of interests of the IPC and Gladstones seems to be an abuse of process, in breach of the SRA's standards and I suspect is unlikely to be something that is news to you.

    Most consumers would never stumble across online information showing that the signature is false and the witness statement a regurgitated template written by freelancers for the legal firm. I believe this is rife and quite possibly a pattern tainting all UKCPM claims at least, and maybe all Gladstones' parking claims.


    If you require any further information about my case please contact me using this email or my telephone number, which is xxxxx xxxxxx.


    Yours sincerely,


    your real name and address


  • KeithP
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    You now need to proof read and understand what you have written.

    At least one typo - in this phrase "...where it is clear in at last one case...".
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