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deprivation of capital question

If someone has £30,000 is on contributed esa and pays full rent, council tax but has a condition like this:
Hypogonadism means diminished functional activity of the gonads—the testes in males or the ovaries in females—that may result in diminished sex hormone biosynthesis. In layman's terms, it is sometimes called interrupted stage 1 puberty. Low androgen (e.g., testosterone) levels are referred to as hypoandrogenism and low estrogen (e.g., estradiol) as hypoestrogenism, and may occur as symptoms of hypogonadism in both sexes, but are generally only diagnosed in males and females respectively. Other hormones produced by the gonads that hypogonadism can decrease include progesterone, DHEA, anti-Müllerian hormone, activin, and inhibin. Spermatogenesis in males, and ovulation in females, may be impaired by hypogonadism, which, depending on the degree of severity, may result in partial or complete infertility.

And dr's wont help so he decides to self treat, buy 5 years worth of hormone replacement + paying for regular blood tests, would it be classed as deprivation of capital of capital even though he'll provide the reciepts, e-mails, bank statements?

Obviously if they start feeling better they will look for work and notify the dwp that they're well enough to work because they're self treating hormone replacement after no help from the nhs?

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  • Torry_Quine
    Torry_Quine Posts: 18,863 Forumite
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    If they are receiving contributions based ESA then it is irrelevant what money they have or how they spend it. Do remember though that unless in the support group contributions based is restricted to one year after which they could only get income based
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  • Thanks. They're in the support group but just a bit worried if the money drops below £16,000 that they'd be entitled to housing benefit. At the moment they're paying full rent on a private property which isn't cheap.
  • IAmWales
    IAmWales Posts: 2,024 Forumite
    Have you escalated the lack of treatment issue, have you been referred to a specialist?
  • Yes, I've seen 4 endocrinologists. None want to help. It's actually quite common for them not to want to help anyone under 50. I'm 37.

    I've also complained by phone and e-mail.
  • If it was a private operation it's not usually considered DOC but I'm not sure about 'self treating'.

    I think you'll have to write and ask.
  • Xbigman
    Xbigman Posts: 3,906 Forumite
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    Buying 5 years worth of medication is a non starter. 6 months is realistically the most you might buy in one go without it being questioned. You might get away with more if the pack size is particularly large but buying huge amounts of meds and just happening to qualify for means tested benefits is asking for trouble.

    Its also worth looking at the use by dates because 5 years is an awful long time in medicine terms.



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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,426 Forumite
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    It's actually quite common for them not to want to help anyone under 50.

    Fo a condition that may lead to infertility?
  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,630 Forumite
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    edited 8 September 2017 am30 9:27AM
    samuelj77 wrote: »
    Thanks. They're in the support group but just a bit worried if the money drops below £16,000 that they'd be entitled to housing benefit. At the moment they're paying full rent on a private property which isn't cheap.

    If they are worried that they would be entitled, then they shouldn't pay for 5 years in advance & then claim housing benefit. If they are hoping they are entitled after spending the money, then that is the definition of deprivation.

    If you are asking whether there is a way of getting away with it, then I expect they have heard every excuse under the sun. They don't even let you clear your existing debts early.

    The DWP don't take pity on people that the NHS fails.

    Have you tried talking to PALS? http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1082.aspx?categoryid=68&subcategoryid=153
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,500 Forumite
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    Is it not dangerous to medicate long term, with no medical supervision ? All levels which are treated by various drugs, I take, have to be checked once a year, at the very least.
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,500 Forumite
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    samuelj77 wrote: »
    Thanks. They're in the support group but just a bit worried if the money drops below £16,000 that they'd be entitled to housing benefit. At the moment they're paying full rent on a private property which isn't cheap.



    If entitled to housing benefit ,it will only be paid to the level your household is seen to need.


    eg a single person will not get an expensive 4 bedroomed house's rent covered, as they are only eligible for one bedroom.
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