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Salary Sacrifice

Looking for confirmation figures are correct.


Company is offering Salary Sacrifice. I'm looking to make 13% contributions on 43.5k take home.


13% pension contributions p/m: £471.25
Take home : £2,361.31
Total Pension Contribution : Plus 20% tax = £565.20


To match take home pay you contribute the below. SS gets added with employer contributions so now tax to be added. :


Salary Sacrifice Calculations p/m: £555
Take home: £2,361


So you loose £10 per month on contributions, and where is the NI saving?


Been going through several calculators, I was expecting to add the NI savings on to make the overall contribution greater?


Employer isn't passing on any of their NI savings.

Comments

  • PeacefulWaters
    PeacefulWaters Posts: 8,495 Forumite
    where is the NI saving?
    In your net pay.
  • dprice
    dprice Posts: 55 Forumite
    In your net pay.

    Net (take home) pay is the same though?
  • PeacefulWaters
    PeacefulWaters Posts: 8,495 Forumite
    dprice wrote: »
    Net (take home) pay is the same though?
    Sorry. Misunderstood. I'll read properly next time!
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,567 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Chutzpah Haggler
    You're confused. What is your GROSS pay? This is what NI is based on. When you sal sac you reduce your gross pay and instead the company makes a pension contribution, so by reducing your gross pay you reduce your NI.
  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    edited 19 April 2017 at 3:07PM
    No Pension:

    Gross: £43,500 / £3,650
    Net: £32,861.48 / £2,738.46

    Without Salary Sacrifice:

    Pension: £5,655 / £471.25
    Gross: £43,500 / £3,650
    Net: £27,206.48 / £2,267.21

    With Salary Sacrifice:

    Pension: £5,655 / £471.25
    Gross: £37,845 / £3153.75
    Net: £29,016.08 / £2,418.01

    A summary of figures. Use https://listentotaxman.com to calculate figures. Based on normal tax code without any other deductions.

    Someone might be able to come along and confirm my figures.
  • Triumph13
    Triumph13 Posts: 2,057 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper I've been Money Tipped!
    Definitely confused. If your gross pay is £43,500 then you will be contributing £471.25 a month from your PRE TAX pay. There is no grossing up of the contribution.


    On that £471.25 if you had taken it as salary instead of pension you would have paid 32% in combined NI and Tax. As a pension contribution without sal sac you would have avoided the 20% tax, but still paid 12% NI on it. With Sal Sac you save both so your takehome pay is higher under sal sac by 12% of £471.25
  • dprice
    dprice Posts: 55 Forumite
    Thank you, I was placing the incorrect figure into the calculator.


    With Salary Sacrifice + Tax saving:

    Pension: £8,304 / £692
    Gross: £35,196 / £2933.00
    Net: £27,214.76 / £2,267.90


    Taking SS I am better off by £1,518 / £126.50
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