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Advice on Penalty Charge Notice?

edited 30 December 2016 at 2:16PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
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edited 30 December 2016 at 2:16PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
I just went out for a drive to Guildford and stopped off at a music shop on the way into town; there is a small off-road parking area at the front of the shop, but the spaces directly at the front of the shop were full, so I just parked on the pavement there, slightly forward of where the red car is in this picture.

Front:
data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syIRBY5YDJz8sIK8VpGHUew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2409338,-0.5760829,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syIRBY5YDJz8sIK8VpGHUew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Rear:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2413904,-0.5761498,3a,75y,143.85h,78.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spnCikVoxanIrC8HGaEag_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Side:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2412182,-0.5761256,3a,75y,78.1h,94.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXoQYzImLUqYYQ15YvRSz9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

My car was parked just forward of the one in the picture, with its front between the lamp post and the grey sign and dropped kerb to the front and rear; as you can see from the pedestrian with the pink shirt walking towards shot, there is plenty of space to get through, so I had made sure I wasn't being inconsiderate and blocking the pavement (nor any of the parked cars, which had space to get out).

When I came back out of the shop I had a Council Penalty Charge Notice, with reason "Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours (Code: 01)" - it was around lunchtime on the Friday.

My question is have I been caught fair and square, or is there any error which I could appeal against (eg. there is no signage showing the "prescribed hours")?

Thanks for the advice, either way!

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  • edited 30 December 2016 at 2:57PM
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    edited 30 December 2016 at 2:57PM
    The yellow line applies to the pavement as well. I see that there is only one yellow sign which will have the restriction times on it but it is a fair distance from where you were parked.

    Is this within a controlled parking zone?

    EDIT: Actually I don't think the the yellow sign I mentioned applies to that road.
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  • prowlaprowla Forumite
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    Wandering up and down that road in Google, there doesn't seem to be a sign within a mile and certainly not on the same block or within sight.

    Tracing back, there is one perhaps a mile back at the traffic lights where I turned off the A25/A322 junction.

    There are lots of different road markings double-yellows, white zig-zags, bus lanes, bus & goods lane, and a roundabout over that mile or so.

    Not that it particularly helps, but the google pictures show shops which have cars at least partially on the pavement along the route.
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    You would be better asking fir help over on pepipoo.com as they specialise in council/police motoring affairs whereas we concentrate on private parking issues here on MSE.

    Read the FAQs and post both sides of your redacted PCN there. You will need an email address to sign up, but fir some reason Hotmail accounts don't work.
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  • TiltTilt Forumite
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    Basically for a single yellow line to be compliant without a sign, it has to be in a controlled parking zone (CPZ). Otherwise you appeal on the grounds that the contravention did not occur due to lack of signage indicating when the restriction is 'live'.

    Had it of been double yellow lines, you wouldn't have a leg to stand on as they do not require additional signage.
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    Thanks - I'll wander across to pepipoo...
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