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Consolidating outstanding debit into a remortgage... Help please

Hi, I'd appreciate if someone could help with my below query/situation:


Mortgage is due for renewal in the summer.
I have around £30k in debts that I would like to consolidate into the mortgage.
Aside from this I have a car loan of £16,000 however I still have the car which is worth around £22,000.

House is worth around £470k, outstanding mortgage is £270k (so would be looking to increase that to £300k).



Combined household income is approx £85k (including bonuses)... probably rising to around £100k in the next financial year (but I probably wont be able to prove that in time for my mortgage renewal).



LTV is not a problem, I just want some advice on the debt consolidation.

Questions:
1. Will my current provider automatically offer me a new deal for the outstanding £270k with no questions asked?
2. If I ask my existing lender for £30k extra to consolidate debts, I presume they will need to do a new affordability check which may rock the boat with any new deal they are about to offer me?
3. If I search for a new deal with a different lender, would I qualify for the £300k mortgage based on the above info?
4. Do lenders 'believe you' when you say you want to borrow additional funds to consolidate debts?


All help appreciated. Thank you
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  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,035 Forumite
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    Possibly. Will depend on lender.

    Credit scoring and affordability yes. Affect £ for £ transfer, probably not.

    Possibly. Depends on lender affordability calculations and if you can evidence the variable earnings to a lender's satisfaction.

    Yes. People lie about consolidating debt and suggest money is for home improvements, not the other way round.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    1. Lenders do not have to perform affordability or other checks prior to making an offer of a new product. Though some currently do. The forthcoming EU directive may have the impact of making this requirement mandatory.
    2. Without doubt they'll profile you i.e. credit check.
    3. You'll definately have to jump through the hoops when switching lenders.
    4. They can check or make it a condition of the mortgage offer. Even arrange for the solicitor involved to make the necessary disbursements.
  • Thanks for your answers.






    I have absolutely no issue if the mortgage lender would prefer to
    settle the outstanding debts directly.
    Do you think I would be better off doing all of these negotiations through a mortgage broker or not?
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    have you fixed your overspending habbits
  • dimbo61
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    Why not look on your existing lenders website and see what offers they have for existing customers!
    As long as you are not increasing the term or borrowing more then you maybe able to change to a cheaper deal ONLINE with no credit checks/affordability checks.
    If you are paying less every month you might be able to reduce your unsecured debts over the next couple of years.

    You have a Good Household income and still over £46,000 of debts?
    You might well need the help of a Good Broker if you want to borrow another £30,000 to add to your mortgage debt
  • SueP19
    SueP19 Posts: 1,882 Forumite
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    have you fixed your overspending habbits

    Take it from one that knows, if you haven't then don't do it
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  • TABgate
    TABgate Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Hi. We recently applied to our mortgage lender (nationwide) to consolidate debts onto our mortgage. We currently owe less than half of the value of the property, and the additional borrowing would take us to 70%. Unfortunately our application was refused.
    We haven't missed any payments on the debts or our mortgage.
    Can anyone advise?
  • kingstreet
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    Finding another lender would appear sound, in the circumstances given.

    You applied to Nationwide for a further advance, as you were an existing borrower. You are less likely to be accepted for this as you would if remortgaging to a new lender.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Debtslayer
    Debtslayer Posts: 447 Forumite
    Promort wrote: »
    Hi, I'd appreciate if someone could help with my below query/situation:


    Mortgage is due for renewal in the summer.
    I have around £30k in debts that I would like to consolidate into the mortgage.
    Aside from this I have a car loan of £16,000 however I still have the car which is worth around £22,000.
    Do you really need the car then? You could sell it and buy a car for 6k, then you'd clear 16k of debt

    House is worth around £470k, outstanding mortgage is £270k (so would be looking to increase that to £300k).
    So you'd still have the car finance on top of the debts you want to add to mortgage?! This will affect how much you can borrow



    Combined household income is approx £85k (including bonuses)... probably rising to around £100k in the next financial year (but I probably wont be able to prove that in time for my mortgage renewal).



    LTV is not a problem, I just want some advice on the debt consolidation.

    Questions:
    1. Will my current provider automatically offer me a new deal for the outstanding £270k with no questions asked?
    2. If I ask my existing lender for £30k extra to consolidate debts, I presume they will need to do a new affordability check which may rock the boat with any new deal they are about to offer me?
    3. If I search for a new deal with a different lender, would I qualify for the £300k mortgage based on the above info?
    4. Do lenders 'believe you' when you say you want to borrow additional funds to consolidate debts?


    All help appreciated. Thank you

    Hi
    I've made some comments above.
    You need to seriously think about turning unsecured debts into secured debt. Never really a good idea. Also how do you know if you manage to add it to mortgage you won't then go and rack up more debt?
    You need to tackle your debts and subsequent spending habits that have led to this debt. If I were you I'd post I the Debt Free Wannabe board and see how you can sort out your debts.
    You have really good salaries but frighteningly high debt and you need to address why.
    Current Mortgage 01.10.17 £113,513.88
    MFW Start Mortgage: £114,794.64
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    Overpayment Target for remainder of 2017: £2,000
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  • TABgate
    TABgate Posts: 15 Forumite
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    I contacted them to request further information about refusal and in awwitingvtheircreturn call (72 hrs) they said. Is this worth pursuing.
    Martins site also advises not to make multiple applications.
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