box junction, 2 exit lanes merge into 1

londonTiger

I got trapped in a box junction. 2 lanes merge into one on the other side and I misjudged a little bit and looked like I could make it because the traffic was moving when I entered the box, but midway through traffic stopped to a halt and the 2 lanes trying to squeeze into one didn't help either.

Is it enforcable?

box junction is around highgate on route from m1. I had a 3 hour drive from birmingham and got caught inside the box.

Edwood_Woodwood

londonTiger wrote: »

I got trapped in a box junction. 2 lanes merge into one on the other side and I misjudged a little bit and looked like I could make it because the traffic was moving when I entered the box, but midway through traffic stopped to a halt and the 2 lanes trying to squeeze into one didn't help either.

Is it enforcable?

box junction is around highgate on route from m1. I had a 3 hour drive from birmingham and got caught inside the box.

Yes it is enforceable, you are even admitting it (in bold, driving a vehicle involves a great deal of judgment which you failed in on this occasion).

londonTiger

I think I'm in the clear, just over 14 days since this incident and nothing received through the post.

RS2000.

londonTiger wrote: »

I think I'm in the clear, just over 14 days since this incident and nothing received through the post.

Only another 5 1/2 months to wait then.

Paradigm

RS2000. wrote: »

Only another 5 1/2 months to wait then.

They'll go straight to summons? Doubt it.

Car_54

AFAIK box junction offences in London are de-criminalised, so the RK would receive a penalty charge notice rather than a NIP.

I believe there's a 28 day limit for that, not 14.

RS2000.

Paradigm wrote: »

They'll go straight to summons? Doubt it.

If they're not decriminalised they don't have to go straight there. A 172 can be served at any time can it not?

No need for a nip for a box junction is there?

Car_54

RS2000. wrote: »

If they're not decriminalised they don't have to go straight there. A 172 can be served at any time can it not?

No need for a nip for a box junction is there?

It is an offence under section 36 of the RTA 1988 , and so a NIP is required.

RS2000.

Car_54 wrote: »

It is an offence under section 36 of the RTA 1988 , and so a NIP is required.

In that cases he's ok, I can't see how they can issue a charge notice after 14 days if it needs a nip

Car_54

RS2000. wrote: »

In that cases he's ok, I can't see how they can issue a charge notice after 14 days if it needs a nip

It needs a NIP to charge under the RTA.

However, it's decriminalised and so they can act under the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, rather than the RTA.

Section 6 (1) says: "Subject to the provisions of this section, no penalty charge notice may be served under this Act after the expiry of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention or failure to comply ocurred."

Also, it seems the penalty charge is served on and payable by "the person appearing to them (TFL) to be the owner of the vehicle", and not the driver.

RS2000.

Car_54 wrote: »

It needs a NIP to charge under the RTA.

However, it's decriminalised and so they can act under the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, rather than the RTA.

Section 6 (1) says: "Subject to the provisions of this section, no penalty charge notice may be served under this Act after the expiry of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention or failure to comply ocurred."

Also, it seems the penalty charge is served on and payable by "the person appearing to them (TFL) to be the owner of the vehicle", and not the driver.

Yeah, I've just read that and a freedom of information reply from the met who say they no longer enforce it.

So the OP isn't home and dry yet.