Adverse Possession - Lessee to council land has passed away

Bluebonnie

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Personally, I doubt your chances of stealing the land. It has had rental paid on it for that 20 years you mention (albeit at a peppercorn level). Also confirmation has been made by the house-owner to the Council that you know it's their land. As my squatter neighbour next door has obviously realised you have to lie through your teeth and claim that land you know very well belongs to someone else is "yours" in order to try and steal it from the rightful owner.

If you do decide to try and steal it, then be prepared for the Council to find a way to make life as awkward as they possibly can for you at any chance they get as "punishment".

No, OP is now the house-owner, and he/she has had no conversation with the council. It was OP's mother who corresponded with the council, and who had a legitimate subtenancy during her lifetime.


It's quite outrageous to accuse OP of intending to steal the land - it was railway land before the council acquired it. How do you think railways got the land? by compulsory purchase, arranged at derisory prices, under various Victorian railway acts.

So who's the real owner - is it a farmer from 1840, or his descendents, whose prime agricultural land was taken? OP has been using the land for a few years, and isn't the council's tenant. OP does appear to be in possession of the land now, and it is fenced off. This is a good start for an adverse possession claim.

tadgh_99

Money,

I realise that land disputes can get very emotive a lot of the time and having read through some of your previous posts on other threads, I can fully understand why you seem to be so very against adverse possession.

However, this situation is dissimilar to yours in that it is not two private landowners claiming disputed land (According the LRs reply to your other posts, in summary, that is what it is. Until it is resolved your neighbour is only a squatter in your opinion).

The land I’m referring to is not in dispute. I have not “made up” justifications for the course of action you may perceive I am taking. In fact I have done the opposite. I have stated the facts as they are and have even asked what my options could be (adverse possession being one of them).

I’d like to know what the possible options are available and whether anyone has had a similar experience.

Granted, my original post could be misconstrued as adverse possession being my first port of call and that is probably down to my reaction to the authority’s ridiculous valuation.

Adverse possession is a last resort for me as I would like to resolve this sooner than the timescales for adverse possession kick in.

But there might be another way where I can negotiate with the council or maybe get the LGO involved. What I don’t want to do is reset the clock should adverse possession be the only route.

I have even said in my previous post I am open to talking to them?

I am open to negotiate with them, but can't as that would reset the clock for the 10 or 12 year eligibility criteria

tadgh_99

Thanks BlueBonnie, you said what I wanted to but more bluntly (sometimes diplomacy doesn't pay off).

You're right, It is outrageous.

tadgh_99

Davesnave wrote: »

I eventually sold the access to two neighbours for the princely sum of £1. :rotfl:

But with your £20k for 100 or so sqaure metres, you made up for it since though Dave

Davesnave

tadgh_99 wrote: »

But with your £20k for 100 or so sqaure metres, you made up for it since though Dave

I wasn't looking for profit from the RoW, just convenience, as having a back entrance shaved 5 minutes off the walk into town.

Selling the garden land was something initiated by the property Crash of 2008. I cut 1/3 off the back garden and dropped the price of the house to get sold and into rented. I figured I'd recoup the money in a few years. In the interim, I used the retained land for secure storage. It was a sound decision, only possible because I had that RoW.

So I'm not any kind of property tycoon! :rotfl:

tadgh_99

You may not be, but still, that is sound thinking & planning that enabled you to come out of the crash unscathed...

as having a back entrance shaved 5 minutes off the walk into town

I had to re-read that first sentence! :rotfl:

Childish, I know!