A Yes vote means better jobs for young people in Scotland

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

interesting concept : to be proud of being a certain nationality

Philosophically speaking, I guess it is.

What's your nationality?
Are you proud of that nation?

Generali

I can't think of a single reason why voting YES! would mean better jobs for young people.

As I put in another post, this stuff of the YES! and NO! mobs flashing shiny baubles in front of the Scots is quite depressing. Surely independence/maintenance of the Union should be about more stirring matters than a few extra coppers in your pocket.

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Actually, it's a good job for you guys that we have failed to qualify the last four attempts as prior to that we had a better qualification record, qualifying 9 times, whilst England only qualified 8 times

It kinda overlooks a couple of pertinent facts, i.e. that England didn't have to qualify in 1966 (as hosts) and in 1970 (as champions).

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

It kinda overlooks a couple of pertinent facts, i.e. that England didn't have to qualify in 1966 (as hosts) and in 1970 (as champions).

Very good point Generali,
So in the period discussed: -

Scotland qualified 9 times
England qualified 6 times (+1 a host +1 as reigning champions)

Is that clearer?

Generali

I CBA to look it up but is it simply because the FA was snotty about the World Cup for quite a while so wouldn't send a team?

I get that you're a patriot but to suggest that the Scottish soccer team has been more successful than England's is delusional at best.

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

I can't think of a single reason why voting YES! would mean better jobs for young people.

Just one point that has been outlined in the White Paper is that upon Independence, Scotland plans to announce a timetable for a reduction in Corporation tax rate of up to three percentage points.

This will send a clear signal that it is one of the most competitive and attractive economies in Europe, with tax rates designed to boost economic activity and support the fast-growing industries that already have a comparative advantage here in Scotland.

Corporation tax rates remain an important tool for securing that competitive advantage and for offsetting competitive advantages enjoyed by other parts of the UK

More attractive business attraction = increased job potential

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

I CBA to look it up but is it simply because the FA was snotty about the World Cup for quite a while so wouldn't send a team?

Actually, it was the same issue with ALL of the home nations

Generali wrote: »

I get that you're a patriot but to suggest that the Scottish soccer team has been more successful than England's is delusional at best.

LOL, not at all, just fishing today on this point.

That said, with a country 10 times the population, you should effectively have 10 times better results, yet have only won 46 out of the 111 meetings (Hamish style stat);)

Generali

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

That's an interesting bar. If most certainly goes from blue at the left to red at the right. Any idea why? Were there different rules in the 2 countries in the C19th? I know that there were rules about corners deciding matches when the laws were first codified. Until the 1960s if you pushed the goalie over the goal line whilst holding the ball it was a goal.

Is it simply that Scotland were better than England in the early days when lots of matches were played but later became worse when fewer were played?

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

That's an interesting bar. If most certainly goes from blue at the left to red at the right. Any idea why?

Well, as the nation who invented the beautiful passing game, it's natural that the early years we adopted a more dominant position.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/after-150-years-the-truth-scotland-invented-football-8756018.html

As each country develops and is aided by the countries population size, preference of sport and investment in development, it's natural that England would eventually hold the upper ground over the Scots.

On a different slant, reviewing your adopted country, Scotland still holds he upper hand with a 6-1-1 result history

England on the other hand only are dominant with a 3-2-1 result history

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Philosophically speaking, I guess it is.

What's your nationality?
Are you proud of that nation?

being a mongrel, it would be inappropriate to be proud of my nationality as such

one can certainly be pleased that one lives in a country with e.g. the rule of law, with trial by a jury of one peers, with habeas corpus, a largely uncorrupt government and police force, a government accountable to the people via a voting system, one with support for poor people etc etc

but I find it difficult to understand being proud of something just because I was a certain nationality

what are you proud of:
-your DNA?
-the fact that you were born in Scotland
-the fact your mum and dad were born in scotland

if you mum and dad were born in scotland but you were born in england, what would you be proud of
-being the child of your scottish mum and dad?
-being born in england

suppose you were a mongrel like me: what would you be proud of
-your place of birth
-your mum's place of birth
-your dad's place of birth

doesn't seem to make any sense to me

patman99

So, the Scots vote 'yes'. The SNP raise the NMW and pensions and cut the corporation Tax.
The English maintain the NMW & pension and then lower the C/T to match the Scottish.

End result being that the Scottish create loads of jobs in their new Govt. departments, but watch as a load of major employers move south into England due to the greater stability of the £ along with a lower NMW.