How to fit a bath in a BEDroom

scarletjim

Good to know I'm not alone in my tastes!

googler

Betcha the soil pipe is at bottom right.

I wouldn't advise plumbing into the pipes where the shower is. Slightest blockage downstream from the shower, and the water will back up, and since the shower drain is below the bath, the bath water will rise up out of the shower drain. Gravity, thou art a cruel mistress......

This is why the WC is always closest to the soil pipe, so that if things back up, it's at the lowest point, and you don't get foul water rising through the shower or bath wastes.....

I would suggest also there's no way of installing this without ripping out the underfloor heating as well as the flooring.

Some tech guides to let you see what you're dealing with

http://www.firedearth.com/media/static/pdf/Bathroom_Technical_Guide_1.pdf

http://www.marleyplumbinganddrainage.com/uploads/docs/2186.pdf

Scottish_Mike

Would you require a structural engineer? A bath + water + person = heavy!

I can't offer any advice from a DIY point-of-view, but I like the sound of it, and that was an interesting article that was linked.

My bathroom is about 13x10ft with a shower and freestanding bath, and steam from the bath isn't too much of an issue, but our bathroom's quite well ventilated.

Good luck!

OnePlanOnHouzz

Hi - there are regs about baths in bedrooms - things like the correct lighting in zones near baths ( to deal with steam) and no electric sockets within 3m of the bath etc (so you can't electrocute your self by accidentally dropping an electric appliance in the bath ) but if the bedroom is big enough to adhere to these rules and, obviously, if the build is strong enough, then it's doable - but it's a good idea to get the input of someone who knows the rules and can advise accordingly ! Otherwise there will be safety issues and possible selling problems if you ever decide to sell your home at a later date !

Mojisola

scarletjim wrote: »

The bedroom has underfloor heating

Electric heating?

scarletjim

googler wrote: »

Betcha the soil pipe is at bottom right.

I wouldn't advise plumbing into the pipes where the shower is. Slightest blockage downstream from the shower, and the water will back up, and since the shower drain is below the bath, the bath water will rise up out of the shower drain. Gravity, thou art a cruel mistress......

This is why the WC is always closest to the soil pipe, so that if things back up, it's at the lowest point, and you don't get foul water rising through the shower or bath wastes.....

I would suggest also there's no way of installing this without ripping out the underfloor heating as well as the flooring.

Some tech guides to let you see what you're dealing with

http://www.firedearth.com/media/static/pdf/Bathroom_Technical_Guide_1.pdf

http://www.marleyplumbinganddrainage.com/uploads/docs/2186.pdf

Thanks again, that's incredibly helpful.

Strangely, if I understand correctly, my soil stack is coming from the shower area. I'm assuming it's the fat pipe running down the outside wall into the ground.

However ripping up the underfloor heating doesn't sound ideal. I was budgeting about £750 for parts and say same again for labour - but messing with the underfloor heating sounds expensive as I understand it was very much a specialist installation by the previous owners (I just hope it never goes wrong!) (Btw Mojisola no it's no electric, it's a system of pipes with boiler-driven water flowing through them in each room. Though each room has it's own thermostat to control it, so god knows how it works...)

In addition, other guidance here mentions the electrical 3m rule. Because of where my TV is (and I wouldn't change that), I couldn't put the bath where I want it. And it won't really fit or look right anywhere else.

Lastly, the weight could be a concern, although it would be near the wall, so might have been ok.

So all in all, it was a nice idea, but I think probably not going to happen in this property. Next time I have a builder / plumber round for anything, I'll get them to take a look in case they have any bright ideas - but for now it's on hold at best.

Just in case anyone was wondering what I had in mind for bath and taps, something like this:

http://www.squarestate.net/intriguing-farmhouse-home-conversion-for-modern-living-space/small-fancy-bedroom-with-bath-tub-elegant-old-farmhouse/

http://www.victoriaplumb.com/Baths/Roll-Top-Baths/Positano-Roll-Top-Bath-with-Bath-Waste_2573.html

Thanks to all for your help.

googler

scarletjim wrote: »

Thanks again, that's incredibly helpful.

Strangely, if I understand correctly, my soil stack is coming from the shower area. I'm assuming it's the fat pipe running down the outside wall into the ground.

In which case, you may have two pipes leading into the stack, one from the WC, and one from basin and shower....?

And you may well have cast iron external pipes, which would complicate things further....

Kernel_Sanders

Scottish_Mike wrote: »

Would you require a structural engineer? A bath + water + person = heavy!

So is a double water bed but there's no record of any of those falling through a floor!

fluffpot

As soon as you put a bath (or shower) in a bedroom, it becomes classified as a bathroom and hence electrical regulations relating to bathrooms apply - here particularly the 3m from a socket to the edge of the bath/shower.

That's what's sunk (groan!) this project I think

mttylad

I would also be concerned about running a steaming hot bath in the bedroom - think of the condensation problems it will bring.