Adult beat up teen in street

Pollycat

zaksmum wrote: »

40 year old woman visiting family in my road and told a 13 year old boy had taunted her 11 year old nephew, calling him four eyes as he wears glasses.

She had the 13 year old pointed out to her and launched a furious physical attack on him, kicking and punching him to the ground.

He had a tooth knocked out and suffered facial cuts and extensive bruising from where she kicked him in the ribs.

The boy's dad has recently been widowed and is trying to look after three kids on his own. He is very sad and weary at the moment. The 13 year old is a bit cheeky to some residents but fine with me.

The dad is considering calling the police as his son, though a teen, is still a child and this woman is 40.

What would you do?

OP
The description of this incident is very specific and detailed.

Did you witness it personally or are you posting information that has been told to you?

Has this boy's Dad asked you for advice on whether he should call the Police?

If it were me, and I'd witnessed this, I'd have called the Police at the time. I have seen a group of adults attacking someone outside a pub and also kicking a taxi and called 999 without a second thought.

If the boy's Dad had asked me for my advice/opinion, I'd have told him he should call the Police.

Has anyone (OP or the boy's Dad) considered if this boy ought to go to A&E?
If there is 'extensive bruising' in the rib area, there may be broken ribs.
And what is going to be done about the missing tooth? He will need attention to that.

I'm also one of the posters quite surprised at this question being asked on here.

j.e.j.

Melonade wrote: »

There's not a person on this forum who hasn't been called a name AND called somebody else a name... so I don't agree with the above comment about it being provoked. If he'd been hit by the younger boys brother or sister then maybe thats fair enough (within a certain age limit)

It is not acceptable for a child to be beaten by an adult in any circumstances. She is 27 years older than him, how is that even a little bit fair if we go on the basis that he got what was coming to him?

But we are adults. We're not 11. We're not terrified of that person who is calling us names.

It's sad the teenager was grieving. This woman can probably play certain 'cards' too. I wouldn't be surprised if she has mental health problems or at the very least anger management issues!

As I say, horrible situation, I don't condone violence, but if you go out looking for trouble, you may just find it. As this teenager has found out, to his own cost.

Melonade

j.e.j. wrote: »

I wouldn't think there's much of a strength difference between a 13 year old teenage boy and a middle-aged woman! In fact if anything he'd probably be stronger!

She does sound a bit of a nutcase, though!!

My 14y/o is 6ft tall, has done martial arts, very sporty etc. I am 36, 5ft 6 and not too sporty but about 1/2 a stone different in our weight. My punch is a lot stronger than his. And I am stronger than him in general.

Also it's not about strength. The poor kid was no doubt terrified being hit by an adult, man or woman!!

Melonade

j.e.j. wrote: »

But we are adults. We're not 11. We're not terrified of that person who is calling us names.

It's sad the teenager was grieving. This woman can probably play certain 'cards' too. I wouldn't be surprised if she has mental health problems or at the very least anger management issues!

As I say, horrible situation, I don't condone violence, but if you go out looking for trouble, you may just find it. As this teenager has found out, to his own cost.

I should of been more specific in saying there's not a person on this forum when they were a child....

dandelionclock30

It sounds like theres more to it than has been reported.I can hardly believe that a 40 year old woman beat someone up after one insult. However, I bet she or the other child had been taunted and bullied for ages and she just snapped. Thats more understandable.
Obviously she shouldnt have beaten him up, she should have gone to the childs Dad. Its sounds like the Dad needs help with the childs behaviour. However the child will now appreciate that there are consequences to harrassing people.

Person_one

j.e.j. wrote: »

Well, supposing this ugly scenario hadn't happened. The 13 year old would have gotten away with it and probably in all likelihood gone on to bully someone else, maybe someone who knows someone..

It was only a matter of time before he got his comeuppance. He should think it lucky it was a woman who bashed him, it could have been someone's older brother who came round to give him a hiding!!

If you bully, you can't complain when you yourself are bullied.

Well...holy !!!!.

I thought I'd seen it all on this forum!

j.e.j.

Person_one wrote: »

Well...holy !!!!.

I thought I'd seen it all on this forum!

Really? I'm just being realistic! 2 wrongs don't make a right, but if you pick on someone smaller than you, you're hardly in a position to complain when someone bigger than you then picks on you!

He's got to learn. If an adult provokes someone and gets a punch on the nose in return, it'll count against them if it ever came to court.

However, I agree with the poster who said there's probably more to the story than we're seeing on here.

rozmister

j.e.j. wrote: »

But we are adults. We're not 11. We're not terrified of that person who is calling us names.

It's sad the teenager was grieving. This woman can probably play certain 'cards' too. I wouldn't be surprised if she has mental health problems or at the very least anger management issues!

As I say, horrible situation, I don't condone violence, but if you go out looking for trouble, you may just find it. As this teenager has found out, to his own cost.

The OP never indicates the 11 year old was 'terrified' by the child who is 2 years older. I'd imagine it's much more likely the 11 year old ran home to tell tales on the other kid or to cry because he was mean and then his aunt flew off the handle.

Taunting another child is different to physically attacking them.

The fact you describe a grieving child as 'playing cards' is pretty unpleasant. Have you experienced losing a parent at a young age?

Person_one

j.e.j. wrote: »

Really? I'm just being realistic! 2 wrongs don't make a right, but if you pick on someone smaller than you, you're hardly in a position to complain when someone bigger than you then picks on you!

He's got to learn. If an adult provokes someone and gets a punch on the nose in return, it'll count against them if it ever came to court.

However, I agree with the poster who said there's probably more to the story than we're seeing on here.

Yeah, sorry.

Defending an adult who batters a child and knocks their teeth out? You're not looking great here.

This happened not so long ago near me, obviously far worse but when you think about a natural progression from this kind of thinking:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/mum-died-from-single-stab-wound-980956

Janepig

j.e.j. wrote: »

Really? I'm just being realistic! 2 wrongs don't make a right, but if you pick on someone smaller than you, you're hardly in a position to complain when someone bigger than you then picks on you!

He's got to learn. If an adult provokes someone and gets a punch on the nose in return, it'll count against them if it ever came to court.

However, I agree with the poster who said there's probably more to the story than we're seeing on here.

So even if, as it appears in this woman's case, you have a third party carrying tales, ie "so and so called your nephew "four eyes"" (hardly "bullying" imo but that's another dicusssion), you don't think the woman should have stopped to find out if this really did happen first? Chances are this child who has been assaulted didn't say anything. Chances are the tale carrier is just causing trouble. Always wrong to go wading in after hearing one side of it. This woman wasn't there, she didn't see or hear what happened, what gives her the right to get involved.

I can't believe the OP's comment that the father is "considering" whether or not to call the Police. Errr, hello? Considering? What's to consider? Ye gods.

Whether or not it happened as reported, if, as an 11 year old spectacle wearer, you can't handle someone calling you "four eyes" then there's no hope for this kid in the adult world!!!

Jx