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Adult beat up teen in street

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  • rozmister
    rozmister Posts: 675 Forumite
    sulkisu wrote: »
    OP mentions a 'nephew', you said 'your niece' - I thought you had misread her post, that's all.

    Oh no I was just saying in general that is what I'd do if it was my niece getting beaten up, I don't have my own child so the closest thing is her and I base my idea of how I'd react on that.
  • TopQuark
    TopQuark Posts: 451 Forumite
    edited 22 August 2013 at 3:34PM
    If it's as serious and as it sounds, then yes the police should have been involved.

    This makes me think about an incident I was involved in a few years ago. I was about 24 I think (I'm female and small; 5'3). I was in a busy central train station and a boy of around 13/14 (who was about the same height as me and accompanied by his mate) was pushing people out of his way and saying "move out the way c**ts". He pushed me hard on the shoulder from behind and as he walked past me I asked him what the hell he thought he was doing. I then got a mouthful of abuse in return. When I told him he needed to learn some respect, he started kicking me in the shins. My immediate reaction was to smack him in the face, which I did. I had a costume ring on at the time and it cut his forehead. He was so shocked that he ran off, whilst shouting some kind of threat about coming back to stab me.

    When I got home and told my mum about it, she said I was lucky the police weren't around as I'd have been the one in the wrong, not the ASBO kid who had attacked me first.
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  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
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    Personally, as the OP, *I* would call the police.

    The dad may not want to for a host of reasons - which, in all liklihood, aren't the fault of the poor kid that's having a rough time and home and has just had seven bells beaten out of him....as a third party, you shouldn't be so bothered about any of those reasons - calling the police will start to get the kid help, which is the most important thing.
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    zaksmum wrote: »
    40 year old woman visiting family in my road and told a 13 year old boy had taunted her 11 year old nephew, calling him four eyes as he wears glasses.

    She had the 13 year old pointed out to her and launched a furious physical attack on him, kicking and punching him to the ground.

    He had a tooth knocked out and suffered facial cuts and extensive bruising from where she kicked him in the ribs.

    The boy's dad has recently been widowed and is trying to look after three kids on his own. He is very sad and weary at the moment. The 13 year old is a bit cheeky to some residents but fine with me.

    The dad is considering calling the police as his son, though a teen, is still a child and this woman is 40.

    What would you do?

    Leave it. It's an ugly situation, but the teenager provoked it by picking on someone he thought couldn't fight back. Well the same happened to him afterwards, didn't it. Lesson learned.

    Disgusting behaviour from the woman, though, no doubt about that.
  • rozmister
    rozmister Posts: 675 Forumite
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    Leave it. It's an ugly situation, but the teenager provoked it by picking on someone he thought couldn't fight back. Well the same happened to him afterwards, didn't it. Lesson learned.

    Disgusting behaviour from the woman, though, no doubt about that.

    So the lesson is - be the biggest bully because otherwise when you bully someone someone else whose bigger than you will come and knock your teeth out. What a great lesson for an 11 year old and a 13 year old.
  • j.e.j.
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    rozmister wrote: »
    So the lesson is - be the biggest bully because otherwise when you bully someone someone else whose bigger than you will come and knock your teeth out. What a great lesson for an 11 year old and a 13 year old.

    Well, supposing this ugly scenario hadn't happened. The 13 year old would have gotten away with it and probably in all likelihood gone on to bully someone else, maybe someone who knows someone..

    It was only a matter of time before he got his comeuppance. He should think it lucky it was a woman who bashed him, it could have been someone's older brother who came round to give him a hiding!!

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  • amyloofoo
    amyloofoo Posts: 1,804 Forumite
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    j.e.j. wrote: »
    Well, supposing this ugly scenario hadn't happened. The 13 year old would have gotten away with it and probably in all likelihood gone on to bully someone else, maybe someone who knows someone..

    It was only a matter of time before he got his comeuppance. He should think it lucky it was a woman who bashed him, it could have been someone's older brother who came round to give him a hiding!!

    If you bully, you can't complain when you yourself are bullied.

    To an extent, however you have to consider whether whether this was in any way proportionate. If one child calls another child a name and is then told off / called names by another child then fair enough - I don't think you can consider it his 'comeuppance' to be assaulted by a grown woman though.
  • Melonade
    Melonade Posts: 747 Forumite
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    Leave it. It's an ugly situation, but the teenager provoked it by picking on someone he thought couldn't fight back. Well the same happened to him afterwards, didn't it. Lesson learned.

    Disgusting behaviour from the woman, though, no doubt about that.

    There's not a person on this forum who hasn't been called a name AND called somebody else a name... so I don't agree with the above comment about it being provoked. If he'd been hit by the younger boys brother or sister then maybe thats fair enough (within a certain age limit)

    It is not acceptable for a child to be beaten by an adult in any circumstances. She is 27 years older than him, how is that even a little bit fair if we go on the basis that he got what was coming to him?
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  • rozmister
    rozmister Posts: 675 Forumite
    j.e.j. wrote: »
    Well, supposing this ugly scenario hadn't happened. The 13 year old would have gotten away with it and probably in all likelihood gone on to bully someone else, maybe someone who knows someone..

    It was only a matter of time before he got his comeuppance. He should think it lucky it was a woman who bashed him, it could have been someone's older brother who came round to give him a hiding!!

    If you bully, you can't complain when you yourself are bullied.

    His tooth was knocked out by a woman who is more than three times his age and you call that lucky?!?!

    There is a huge difference between bullying with WORDS and beating someone up. If you can't recognise the difference between verbal and physical abuse that's pretty concerning.

    The OP mentioned in her first post that his father is recently widowed - children do suffer grief too you know. And whilst I completely agree you shouldn't bully someone that doesn't make it ok for a grown woman to beat seven shades of **** out of a vulnerable child whose just lost a parent because he insulted a child.

    Encouraging kids to batter people smaller than them because they're bullys does not teach them any useful skill for life. In fact it teaches them that extreme violence is totally acceptable if you think the person is in the wrong. What a great way to conduct yourself in life.

    The woman is a risk to children, she's a risk to vulnerable adults and she should be prosecuted. Someone who beats up a 13 year old grieving kid for calling another kid names is a disgrace and dangerous.
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    amyloofoo wrote: »
    To an extent, however you have to consider whether whether this was in any way proportionate. If one child calls another child a name and is then told off / called names by another child then fair enough - I don't think you can consider it his 'comeuppance' to be assaulted by a grown woman though.

    I wouldn't think there's much of a strength difference between a 13 year old teenage boy and a middle-aged woman! In fact if anything he'd probably be stronger!

    She does sound a bit of a nutcase, though!!
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