UK Parking Patrol Office: Parking Charge Notice... not paid

Marigold77

I have recently (March)2013 been issued with a PCN charge whilst being parked on private property.
Do the PCN notices hold any substance ? I have read previous chats and it seems the general concensus is to ignore, all be it they were from a while back (2012). To add, I have just taken delivery of a second demand, increasing the payment from £50 to £100. This is a ticket issued by a 'UK Parking Patrol Office, apparently a 'BPA Approved Operator', based at Deansgate, Manchester, I believe this not to be an official County Council PCN. Should I ignore there letters, or pay up ? thx

HO87

Before going into any details as to what you can do, I have a couple of questions. Were you issued with a ticket at the time of the incident?

If not, and without disclosing the date on which the incident resulting in the issue of the PCN occurred, how long was it before you received the first letter if you count the day following the incident as Day 1?

Can you confirm if there is any reference to "the creditor" on any of the paperwork you have received? If so, who is the creditor described as?

Marigold77

I was issued with the ticket back at begining of March, I was present at the time, just found it plastered to my windscreen.
I then received the follow up letter 10 days ago, 51 days after the date of the incident +1.
The only creditor relation comment points towards the 'Uk Parking Patrol Office' at Deansgate, Manchester. I hope this info helps.

HO87

Marigold77 wrote: »

I was issued with the ticket back at begining of March, I was present at the time, just found it plastered to my windscreen.
I then received the follow up letter 10 days ago, 51 days after the date of the incident +1.
The only creditor relation comment points towards the 'Uk Parking Patrol Office' at Deansgate, Manchester. I hope this info helps.

An interesting little situation and yet another example of a private parking company failing to comply with the law and the BPA Approved Operator Scheme code of practice.

@OP you will shortly have a PM (Private Message)

Marigold77

sorry, with me being a complete novice to this forum, how can I view the private msg ? thx

Marigold77

ah ha, I've just found the private msg inbox. I await ur msg. thx

Coupon-mad

Marigold77 wrote: »

I have recently (March)2013 been issued with a PCN charge whilst being parked on private property.
Do the PCN notices hold any substance ? I have read previous chats and it seems the general concensus is to ignore, all be it they were from a while back (2012). To add, I have just taken delivery of a second demand, increasing the payment from £50 to £100. This is a ticket issued by a 'UK Parking Patrol Office, apparently a 'BPA Approved Operator', based at Deansgate, Manchester, I believe this not to be an official County Council PCN. Should I ignore there letters, or pay up ? thx

It's not a real Council PCN, it's a fake one - and you don't go paying it!

If this is the first letter, a 'Notice to Keeper/Owner' then you can challenge it and you WILL NOT be paying this.

Your options are:

- to challenge it, if this was the first letter to the registered keeper, then appeal to POPLA with our help (if this was in England or Wales only)

- OR ignore it (a must if in Scotland) and a reasonable option in England/Wales if you don't mind ignoring debt collector letters and doesn't scare easily.

See this link about what a PPC has to get right:

http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/keeper-liability/

and this thread with the BPA Code of Practice - most PPCs fail to comply in several ways so spot the difference, consider where they have failed, use it in your appeals:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=4535287

and this sticky thread which shows successful POPLA appeals - most recent ones have won now that we know the system:

POPLA Decisions thread.

This is a well-known 'fake PCN issuer' and if you decide to appeal you can send a challenge that doesn't even tell them anything. Such as this:

http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/appeal-letter/

or this:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=78723

or this:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=78800

or a version of this (post #7):

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=78659

Please show us your draft challenge and definitely get help at POPLA appeal stage.


HTH