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Current a level students won't get a pension till 77... Lets cut boomers pensions NOW

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  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Pathetic. You add next to nothing to any of the discussions -- just an angry, none-too-bright, disaffected, left-wing stirrer, who can't lose an argument without resorting to personal attacks, with the inevitable result that you get them back. Do everyone a favour and do one, so that the grown ups can try to have an intelligent discussion without every disagreement turning into playground jibes.

    You don't really deal with people disagreeing with you very well do you?
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    You don't really deal with people disagreeing with you very well do you?

    You don't deal with anything very well as far as I can see. I am tempted to put you on Ignore, but I must confess to a certain degree of guilty pleasure at witnessing the repeated desperate, flailing, and failing attempts at self-justification and point scoring.

    Keep digging.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    You don't deal with anything very well as far as I can see. I am tempted to put you on Ignore, but I must confess to a certain degree of guilty pleasure at witnessing the repeated desperate, flailing, and failing attempts at self-justification and point scoring.

    Keep digging.

    OK, as long as you're happy. :)
  • RevolvingDoor
    RevolvingDoor Posts: 1,108 Forumite
    BertieUK wrote: »
    This site quotes an average wedding to cost just over £16,000
    http://www.ukweddingbelles.com/weddingmagazine/budgeting/267-wedding-costs-2012
    I would just wonder who is actually termed Mr & Mrs average. None of my friends ever spent this amount and admitted it.
    sorry for the deviation...

    I don't know why anyone would spend so much on one day like that! Our wedding was very MSE,:p it cost about £100.:money:
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    I don't know why anyone would spend so much on one day like that! Our wedding was very MSE,:p it cost about £100.:money:

    Maybe because of these 'average wedding cost prices' being out of reach of the 'average couple' this could drive couples to opt for 'living together' and investing the money into their home rather than be expected to save this vast amount just for one day.

    Our wedding was like yours, very MSE my wife made her wedding dress and has not looked at it since.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    BertieUK wrote: »
    Maybe because of these 'average wedding cost prices' being out of reach of the 'average couple' this could drive couples to opt for 'living together' and investing the money into their home rather than be expected to save this vast amount just for one day.

    Our wedding was like yours, very MSE my wife made her wedding dress and has not looked at it since.

    Why? Nothing more romantic than Gretna Green :)
    £489.00 - Blacksmiths Wedding Package (2+ Guests)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    I don't know why anyone would spend so much on one day like that! Our wedding was very MSE,:p it cost about £100.:money:

    I wonder what the median price is rather than the average.

    I Beckham style affair and 50 of yours?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    True.That's why vulnerable is a better determinator of need than age. But a lot of elderly are vulnerable of course for medical and financial reasons.

    The trouble is that elements of the left have hijacked the term vulnerable to include anyone living off welfare even if it's of their own making or choosing. This discredits anyone who is genuinely vulnerable. Some of the Conservatives have got flack over the strivers v skivers talk, but they know that it strikes a chord with the majority, and that's why Labour is so much on the back foot over this. All the right people are objecting :- most Labour, some LibDems, a few Tory wets.

    The problem with your argument is that the Strivers that are being hit (and vulnerable) most and that is Labours point and the Tory Achilles heal. If you think that it is Labour on the back foot about this you are from a different planet.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Pensions ages are increasing because we are living longer. Whilst you might have to wait till 77, you may live to over a 100 and hence you'll still get the same level of state payout.

    Says who?
    Longevity and our 'missing' 90-year-olds


    Buried in the data of the 2011 Census is the discovery that there are now fewer elderly people than was previously estimated. The census data showed that there were 30,000 fewer people aged in their 90s than expected. This represents a reduction of around 15%, so what has happened to our 'missing' 90-year-olds?
    http://www.theactuary.com/features/2012/11/longevity-and-our-missing-90-year-olds/
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    edited 9 January 2013 at 7:11PM
    I wonder what the median price is rather than the average.

    I Beckham style affair and 50 of yours?

    I would guess that the median price is in the £10,000-£15,000 range because you just can't do the sort of wedding that most of them want (first time rounders anyway) for much less than that.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
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