Obama Right Osborne Wrong?Lab Win Means US Business?

Conrad

UK manufacturing activity hits 15-month high

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/02/uk-manufacturing-activity-15-month-high

Thrugelmir

robmatic wrote: »

Obama is taxing the rich a hell of a lot less than Osborne...

The change just agreed is the first income tax rise in the USA for 20 years.

ManAtHome

Thought Obama was putting up tax for more than just 'the rich' - payroll tax up from 4.5% to 6.5% (very few MSM 'articles' seem to mention this).

Bloomberg link http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/senate-passed-deal-means-higher-tax-on-77-of-households.html

A._Badger

Obama has overseen a point where US debt has reached around 100 per cent of GDP.

It is far from impossible that even the USA might not be able to recover from that without a massive upheaval.

I wonder how long it would take Labour to equal that magnificent, Gramscian, achievement here?

DecentLivingWage

Conrad wrote: »

UK manufacturing activity hits 15-month high

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/02/uk-manufacturing-activity-15-month-high

No good if the resulting goods are too pricey as exports - take defence for example... I'm genuinely wondering whether Monseiur Hollande will get many of those US orders now.... Can anyone shed light?

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

On cutting the deficit Obama said

'We Cant Just Cut Our Way To Prosperity'

Just wondering youse all think to that? as we have a weird new year fiscal political sea change where Obama is pulling the US into the green shoots of recovery, taxing the rich while Osborne is slashing growth here and is accused of doing the opposite in helping millionaires. Does anyone else suspect, as I do, that if Labour wins here - the US will help us trade-wise? After all..... they have copious shale gas....Obama and Cameron not best buddies!

You have some very strange ideas about what is going on in the world. Obama's policies would be rejected by the Tories as making them unelectable as they are so right wing!

Labour has nothing in common with any mainstream politician in the US.

Thrugelmir

Generali wrote: »

You have some very strange ideas about what is going on in the world.

Or the faintest understanding of events actually mean.

Generali

ManAtHome wrote: »

Thought Obama was putting up tax for more than just 'the rich' - payroll tax up from 4.5% to 6.5% (very few MSM 'articles' seem to mention this).

Bloomberg link http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/senate-passed-deal-means-higher-tax-on-77-of-households.html

Strictly speaking I think that's a tax cut expiry rather than a tax rise in the weird parlance of US budgetary politics. It amounts to the same thing and I agree that it has happened.

DecentLivingWage

Generali wrote: »

You have some very strange ideas about what is going on in the world. Obama's policies would be rejected by the Tories as making them unelectable as they are so right wing!

Labour has nothing in common with any mainstream politician in the US.

Accepted.... of course theyre right wingish-he has his hands tied behind his back! Amazing really, he's done as much as he has!

Generali

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Accepted.... of course theyre right wingish-he has his hands tied behind his back! Amazing really, he's done as much as he has!

You're living a fantasy. Obama is another product of the NE liberal elite not a frustrated socialist.