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HELP - Estate Agent trying to con me ? Had a higher offer ??

Hi All

Looking at a flat locally to me that is in a block, it has been on the market for a few months and price has not moved.

I have just rang them inquiring about the lease as its in a block and they said they have no idea about cost except its for 100 years ??

She then stated i should find out myself ? No idea where to go ??

I then stated i was considering putting an offer in and she said they have received an offer OVER the asking price already......

Why would somebody offer OVER initially when its been on the market for ages ??

Anyone advise me here, can i ask for proof of the offer ?

How do i find out about the lease etc

Cheers

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  • kingstreetkingstreet Forumite
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    Make your own offer, in writing.

    It will be accepted, or rejected, as appropriate by the vendor. No, you don't have the right to see other offers in a private treaty sale. Only public auctions make others' bids visible to all.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • G_MG_M Forumite
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    The length, and terms, of the lease will be disclosed during the conveyancing process. However, the seller should have a fair idea what the annual costs etc are (ground rent, service charges), so the agent should be able to find out.

    In your offer letter (kingstreet above) make the offer conditional on the seller confirming the costs for the year 2012-13 (give a time limit for your offer?)

    Bear in mind as you go forward the significance of
    a) the condition of the building as a whole and
    b) whether there is sinking fund

    If the roof will need replacing shortly (cost shared between all lease-holders) and there is NO sinking fund built up, then you'll have to find your share. If over the last 10 years a sinking fund has built up, then the money is already there....
  • SG27SG27 Forumite
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    Ignore the other offer, it may or may not exist. Make your offer based on what you think it's worth. The other offer is irrelevant.
  • happylifehappylife Forumite
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    Agree with SG27. A property is only worth what you think it is worth.

    As an investment you may need to pay more than you think the property is worth if it returns a profit.

    Submit your offer and be ready to move quickly if accepted.

    If they refuse then look elsewhere,.

    If you can complete quick and have the mortgage offer ready it helps.
  • stylus360 wrote: »
    I have just rang them inquiring about the lease as its in a block and they said they have no idea about cost except its for 100 years?

    She then stated i should find out myself? No idea where to go?
    As already indicated, the lease details are part of the conveyancing process. But if you really need to know them before making an offer, you can obtain them for £3. You'll need to use HMLR's website and obtain official copies of the leasehold title specific to this flat.

    Go to http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/online-services
  • G_MG_M Forumite
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    As already indicated, the lease details are part of the conveyancing process. But if you really need to know them before making an offer, you can obtain them for £3. You'll need to use HMLR's website and obtain official copies of the leasehold title specific to this flat.

    Go to http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/online-services
    Agreed, though be aware

    1) not all leases are held by the Land Registry. The Lease Title may refer to the lease itself which may not be available online

    2) it is unlikely to specify the annual service charge (though it will specify the ground rent).
  • tim123456789tim123456789 Forumite
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    stylus360 wrote: »
    Hi All

    Looking at a flat locally to me that is in a block, it has been on the market for a few months and price has not moved.

    I have just rang them inquiring about the lease as its in a block and they said they have no idea about cost except its for 100 years ??

    She then stated i should find out myself ? No idea where to go ??

    I then stated i was considering putting an offer in and she said they have received an offer OVER the asking price already......

    Why would somebody offer OVER initially when its been on the market for ages ??

    Anyone advise me here, can i ask for proof of the offer ?

    How do i find out about the lease etc

    Cheers

    as an experienced buyer of flats I make it very clear to agents that unless they can supply me with concrete lease details before I make an offer, I shall be walking.

    It is just laziness not supplying this information

    tim
  • m0bovm0bov Forumite
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    in general if they don't tell you the onfo upfront then there is something to hide. There is no reason for them not to know this.
  • stylus360stylus360 Forumite
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    as an experienced buyer of flats I make it very clear to agents that unless they can supply me with concrete lease details before I make an offer, I shall be walking.

    It is just laziness not supplying this information

    tim

    This is exactly my opinion, i will ask them to find the details as the Vendor, i personally think it's very unprofessional.

    If they don't supply the info i will walk as advised above.

    Thanks for replies, much appreciated.
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