The overtaxed middle starting to get seriously narked...

PaulF81

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9717537/The-overtaxed-South-needs-its-own-party.html

Some select quotes:

As a standalone entity, the people of Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Sussex, Hampshire, Kent, Oxfordshire, Surrey and London are 18th in the global GDP league, just ahead of Indonesia and just behind Turkey.

I looked on Rightmove and discovered that, in the OK London suburb of Wimbledon, I could pay a tad more than £1 million for a clapped-out, three-bed detached house that looked like Swampy had been the previous owner.
Why should I cough up an extra £50,000 so that politicians can spray their largesse in other parts of the country?
The subsidy from London and the South East to the rest of the country is truly astonishing. While the difference between what London spends and what it earns is 10 per cent on the plus side, you go to Wales and it’s 36 per cent on the minus side.
The North East is -32 per cent and even the relatively prosperous North West is -18.4 per cent. Why don’t they live within their means, or move down here and see what it’s like to be taxed until they weep? Frankly, we can no longer keep subsiding other people’s spending habits.

:rotfl:

And if you decide to bankrupt yourself to give your children a better education by going private, surely you should be entitled to a tax break because you are not using the union-dominated and useless state system.
Perhaps council tenants would lose their rent subsidies if they took Sky or Virgin, since, if they had any spare money, I would like them to pay the going rate for living in the South.
Not much to ask is it? These would be interesting rallying cries and, at the minimum, would lead Cameron, Clegg and Miliband to offer various blandishments to keep the disgruntled onside.

All top stuff and all spot on. It's starting to unravel for the coalition methinks....

grizzly1911

PaulF81 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9717537/The-overtaxed-South-needs-its-own-party.html

Some select quotes:



:rotfl:




All top stuff and all spot on. It's starting to unravel for the coalition methinks....

Kelvin MacKenzie say no more.

The comments say it all really.

MacMickster

Why don’t they live within their means, or move down here and see what it’s like to be taxed until they weep? Frankly, we can no longer keep subsiding other people’s spending habits.

The obvious counter argument is that why don't those poor overtaxed Londoners sell up and move to the North East then they can be on the receiving end of all of those subsidies?

Absolute nonsense from the Telegraph designed to appeal to Maggies "Greed is Good" accolytes.

A._Badger

MacMickster wrote: »

The obvious counter argument is that why don't those poor overtaxed Londoners sell up and move to the North East then they can be on the receiving end of all of those subsidies?

Absolute nonsense from the Telegraph designed to appeal to Maggies "Greed is Good" accolytes.

Could you remind us when Mrs Thatcher said that?

Just for the sake of accuracy, you understand...

System

Hmm, isn't that a good point about tax breaks for using private education? I always thought the same should apply for people using Private Medical Insurance.

grizzly1911

Joeskeppi wrote: »

Hmm, isn't that a good point about tax breaks for using private education? I always thought the same should apply for people using Private Medical Insurance.

Their choice?

It is a luxury, the service is all ready provided.

Who picks up the bill when private medicine doesn't meet it's obligations and picks up the pieces when private can no longer be funded?

ruggedtoast

Why dont Telegraph readers just declare independence themselves, they can join their poorer brothers who read the Daily Mail and set up a new state where no one is conspicuously young, foreign, liberal, or poor.

I suggest they annex the 1950s as its where most of them seem to spend most of their time.

If anyone loses their job or has a child out of wedlock they will be hanged outside the borders of Surrey.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Wimbledon is a bit more than an "ok London suburb" thank you very much!

I wouldn't mind paying tax if we got a Scandinavian society back in return.

ILW

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Wimbledon is a bit more than an "ok London suburb" thank you very much!

I wouldn't mind paying tax if we got a Scandinavian society back in return.

Have you ever watched Wallander?

Out,_Vile_Jelly

ILW wrote: »

Have you ever watched Wallander?

Read a couple of books and watched the recent Danish drama series.

These countries must have a feral underclass, but they seem to do a better job of keeping them out of sight.

Conrad

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Why dont Telegraph readers just declare independence themselves, they can join their poorer brothers who read the Daily Mail and set up a new state where no one is conspicuously young, foreign, liberal, or poor.

Living in the S East, what I notice is the folk tend to be little dynamos, forever putting energy into new ways of making money. For example when I meet clients such as black cabbies or firemen, invariably they have thier fingers in other pies, everything from pond installation to christmas tree growers, it's just a mindset thang. They never mention entitlments or how someone somewhere needs to fix thier life. They are just too busy planning thier next venture. However through the letting agency in my office, I do see the other side of life.

Another characteristic for example in the villages where I live is that almost every woman is seriously into keeping fit / marathons / triathlons etc. Just a can-do get up and go mindset. Obesity is pretty rare. Why is this?