CSA again - sorry!

kelloggs36

djdido2 wrote:

This sounds just like me. The suggestion of a sub board for CSA is a brilliant idea and I hope it will happen soon.

My ex partner had a deductions of earnings order and then subsequently left his job to avoid paying anything. Ironic because he wants access to his child but flatly refuses to pay a penny towards anything for DS.

He is not claiming any benefits and according to the CSA the trace done on his National Ins Number, he is not employed. His daughter told me he is now working for himself but the Inland Revenue have no record of this.

I know where he lives and I know he has just bought a Mercedes car but thats all I have on him. I'd like to play detective but I am never away from my kids and when I am its to go to work.

So what next??? I really sympathise with the OP. Blatant insult to know they are working and yet they don't want to subsidise their own flesh and blood. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!

As you know where he lives, is there any chance you can take photo of car on driveway? Then you can send in evidence to CSA who can do trace on car reg number to see if it is registered in his name? If so, you can then get assessment and go for a departure on lifestyle as they will already know he can afford a merc - unless he insists that his new partner is paying for it.

Prudent

I got a photo and they told me it was not evidence. I still insisted on sending it in recorded delivery.

welshcakes

In the US they conviscate an evading NRP's driving license til they start paying up. I know it could be seen as counter productive as it could actually cause a NRP to lose their job and thus their abiity to pay, but I think giving a formal Notice that hey have 30 days to comply or lose it would certainly sucessfully kick start quite a few cases.

kelloggs36

Prudent wrote:

I got a photo and they told me it was not evidence. I still insisted on sending it in recorded delivery.

They can still use the details from the registration number and check with the DVLA that the car is registered in his name. If so, it is evidence of his address. Take it further and check that they have done this. Ask them to pass it on to their fraud investigation team for them to investigate. It isn't good enough to say it isn't evidence - it IS evidence and very useful evidence. The DVLA will be able to tell if the car is on finance and the CSA have powers to contact financial providers for information now, which they did not have in the past. Jump up and down and demand more. Complain to your MP do it all.

djdido2

thanks for that kellogg. He is definitely not being subsidised by a partner (who'd have him? lol). People keep saying report him to the Inland Revenue as it is known he is working Self-Employed (Cash in Hand) but been on the website and don't know who exactly I am reporting him to. If he has become Self-Employed how long does he have before he has to declare it to the taxman? Any ideas???

dido

kelloggs36

He should put in some tax returns after a year, but it could be up to 15 months I think (can't remember where I heard that so it may be a load of rubbish lol). There should be a black market dept of the Inland Revenue to report people who are working cash in hand.

dottyanne

This can work 2 ways aswell you know - as a RP myself (3 kids, no CSA assesment - an agreement between ourselves) and wife of a NRP (whos'e ex did, up to recently go thrrought the CSA from sheer greed!!) I have seen both sides of the coin.

My husband has never not paid for his kids, altough for a short period of time when he lived on his own - he couldnt pay the ex as much as she wanted - and after getting the house and business off him - decided to go the the CSA - absolute morals of an alleycat. It did her no good at all as he was paying her more himself than the CSA assesed him at and after three years of getting things wrong - she has finally woken up and smelled the roses - they are now int he process (final stages) of sorting this out themsleves at a mutually agreed amount on a set date each month - and because of trust issues inteh past we have drawn up an Agreement which states the terms of the payments and when (in accordance with CSA guidelines) they will end. This is to protect both parties. The CSA are useless and should only be used in the most unsolveable cases. I myself have never used them after seeing the shambles they made withmy husbands case. It has caused severe stress and strain on our marraige. And futhermore it causes dislike and feelings of contemtp towards the other parent. I am uninterested in her life but seeing her drive round in a new convertiable and goiing on 3-4 foreign holidays a year when we can barely afford one every two years does cut close to the bone!!!!

shaunc196

Not going through the CSA, would that mean that the wife would lose 40% of her benefits. I am trying to love and money for us to have this special arrangement. Its very amicable between us. When the CSA come knocking, I am in financial ruin ( see Debts thread ) because of the debt I have taken on, for her peice of mind.

I am left with, after bills and shopping, around 13 pounds per week, and I am holding that to treat the kids. When CSA come in, I am left with -230 per month.

This worry is making me physically sick

kelloggs36

Is your ex definately on benefits? Is there no chance she can work over 16 hours per week? That way, she gets to claim tax credits and can keep her maintenance at the agreed amount, and can avoid the CSA altogether.