CSA again - sorry!

Mr_Crafty

Perhaps the site should have a CSA forum...

Anyway, my partner's ex-husband has now not paid any maintenance for 7 months. He has recently stopped picking the children up from school on a Friday ('his day') and has bought a new house and a new car. My step-daughter was off ill last Friday and spent the day with him.....at his new job.

The CSA can't/won't do anything as he has told them he is on benefit. We have contacted benefit fraud, but they won't tell us what they find out. So we're not sure whether the benefits people will tell the CSA. He's clearly working but the children are not receiving any maintenance. The most amazing thing??

He's a teacher. One of Wales' highest-paid teachers in fact (a head of department in the biggest catholic school in Cardiff). He's had a detachment of earnings order against him in the past, but his employer (the LEA) seemed just as disinterested as him.

What can we do?

Sensemaya

Mr_Crafty wrote:

Perhaps the site should have a CSA forum...

Anyway, my partner's ex-husband has now not paid any maintenance for 7 months. He has recently stopped picking the children up from school on a Friday ('his day') and has bought a new house and a new car. My step-daughter was off ill last Friday and spent the day with him.....at his new job.

The CSA can't/won't do anything as he has told them he is on benefit. We have contacted benefit fraud, but they won't tell us what they find out. So we're not sure whether the benefits people will tell the CSA. He's clearly working but the children are not receiving any maintenance. The most amazing thing??

He's a teacher. One of Wales' highest-paid teachers in fact (a head of department in the biggest catholic school in Cardiff). He's had a detachment of earnings order against him in the past, but his employer (the LEA) seemed just as disinterested as him.

What can we do?

The LEA has a legal obligation to assist the CSA.

Phone up the CSA and ask to speak to a complaints resolution officer. Take their name and direct phone number and arrange for them to call you back. Also mention this matter to your MP and inform the CRO, your MP is involved.

Do provide the CRO with the name of his new school, address and telephone number.Then they can phone him!

The CSA obviously has his NI number,so they can check up....and whether he really was on benefits.

Mr_Crafty

Cheers sensemaya

Having spoken to the CSA (not me, my partner actually) they seemed to suggest that they would wait for Benefits Fraud to complete their investigation of him. But obviously if he loses his job due to deception it wouldn't benefit us at all as we'd still get no maintenance.

He previously, officially, worked at this school but was off sick for 18 months with 'depression'. He could now be working for them as a supply teacher through an agency, in which case the LEA won't be able to help I assume. We don't know what days/hours he is working or how long ago he returned to work.

It could be that he's only just returned to work, but such is the situation we don't trust either: that he hasn't been working for the past 6 months, or that he will volunteer his details now.

going2die_rich

Next time their is a parents evening or some other evening with loads of parents around. Storm into the school shout out how he hasn't paid maintenance for the last 7 months. Humiliation infront of parents and his peers will get him back on board if he wants to progress his career any further, as mud tends to stick.

Also ring (withholding your number) several times reporting him as a benefit cheat. The more tip offs the office gets the more likely they are to act. Obviously make out you are different people as you don't need to leave your personal details anyway.

I'd personal just go for brute force and give him a good kicking but thats not everyone's solution to the problem

kelloggs36

going2die_rich wrote:

Next time their is a parents evening or some other evening with loads of parents around. :rotfl: . Humiliation infront of parents and his peers will get him back on board if he wants to progress his career any further, as mud tends to stick.

Also ring (withholding your number) several times reporting him as a benefit cheat. The more tip offs the office gets the more likely they are to act. Obviously make out you are different people as you don't need to leave your personal details anyway.

I'd personal just go for brute force and give him a good kicking but thats not everyone's solution to the problem

I'd love to see it!

kelloggs36

Mr_Crafty wrote:

Cheers sensemaya

Having spoken to the CSA (not me, my partner actually) they seemed to suggest that they would wait for Benefits Fraud to complete their investigation of him. But obviously if he loses his job due to deception it wouldn't benefit us at all as we'd still get no maintenance.

He previously, officially, worked at this school but was off sick for 18 months with 'depression'. He could now be working for them as a supply teacher through an agency, in which case the LEA won't be able to help I assume. We don't know what days/hours he is working or how long ago he returned to work.

It could be that he's only just returned to work, but such is the situation we don't trust either: that he hasn't been working for the past 6 months, or that he will volunteer his details now.

You could ask the school which agency they use regularly for their supply teachers and then suggest to CSA that he works for those agencies? They can make enquiries and find out. The LEA use specific ones too, ask them. Clearly you can't ask about a specific person, but you can find out the names of the agencies in the area?

kelloggs36

They have their own investigation dept too - DEMAND that they take details and pass them to their own investigation team. They can then liaise with CFIS (Benefit fraud) and swap info. This new house he has bought, do you know the address? If so, you can apply online to the Land Registry, input the details of his address, pay your 3 or 4 quid and get the details instantly as to who owns the property and who the mortgage company is. THEN you pass the info on to the BA and CSA fraud teams who can approach the mortgage company for extra details.

welshcakes

I bought out ex from family home quite a while back and provided the CSA with his new address (he jointly bought it with new partner)..However today when I was down at house to check no gale damage, low and behold, CSA notice to him still arriving through the mail of MY door.

Wondering if I should do the polite thing and return to sender (won't solve problem), cross through address and write on his (still wouldn't make any difference) or whether I should some benefit out of it and just open and read them so I'm clued up on the latest between him and CSA. Opening someone else's mail is against the law I think but then again it's coming to my address and it might give me some help it getting some sort of payments for the children.

What's the forum's opinion on this slightly moral dilemna?

Prudent

High earners in education can escape. My ex is a head teacher of a small residential school and at £109,00 per annum must be one of Scotland's highest paid heads. He has systematically misled the csa for many years. It took me 4 1/2 years before I got a correct payment. That was depsite winning an appeal early on in which I had proof he was misleading them . They accepted the proof that and agreed he was trying to avoid payment. Subsequently however they repeatedly said things like the 'we have to believe the non resident parent' e.g. when he purchased a new Mercedes - and said he couldn't afford to pay the arrears. It is very frustrating.

You need to be very persistent. I sent them copies and photos of everything. And yes, out of sheer desparation I did open his post. It is not a nice feeling. I felt I was invading his privacy, and didn't like myself very much. I nearly gave up until a friend asked me if it was ok to let my child miss out on things she could otherwise have. I realised then that it wasn't about me at all ... it was about my responsibility to my daughter.

djdido2

This sounds just like me. The suggestion of a sub board for CSA is a brilliant idea and I hope it will happen soon.

My ex partner had a deductions of earnings order and then subsequently left his job to avoid paying anything. Ironic because he wants access to his child but flatly refuses to pay a penny towards anything for DS.

He is not claiming any benefits and according to the CSA the trace done on his National Ins Number, he is not employed. His daughter told me he is now working for himself but the Inland Revenue have no record of this.

I know where he lives and I know he has just bought a Mercedes car but thats all I have on him. I'd like to play detective but I am never away from my kids and when I am its to go to work.

So what next??? I really sympathise with the OP. Blatant insult to know they are working and yet they don't want to subsidise their own flesh and blood. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!

kelloggs36

welshcakes wrote:

I bought out ex from family home quite a while back and provided the CSA with his new address (he jointly bought it with new partner)..However today when I was down at house to check no gale damage, low and behold, CSA notice to him still arriving through the mail of MY door.

Wondering if I should do the polite thing and return to sender (won't solve problem), cross through address and write on his (still wouldn't make any difference) or whether I should some benefit out of it and just open and read them so I'm clued up on the latest between him and CSA. Opening someone else's mail is against the law I think but then again it's coming to my address and it might give me some help it getting some sort of payments for the children.

What's the forum's opinion on this slightly moral dilemna?

I would open it - don't really care about the law in this respect I'm afraid:eek: I would then get evidence from the Land Registry and send it recorded delivery to the CSA and demand that they up date his records with the correct address.