ESA claimants next Monday - Heads Up !

bobajob_1966

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

The simple facts are that the two groups are completely artificial, someone can qualify for the Support Group and be ready to return to work in six months and someone can score 100+ points in the WCA (15 required), with a degenerative and incurable illness such as MS,. and still fail to qualify for the SG and have no hope of every working again.

I agree - I find the fact that those in the Support Group can undertake permitted work a complete contradiction!

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

bobajob_1966 wrote: »

Any condition could score 15 points, it is more a case of how the condition affects the individuals ability to work.

How do they correctly and accurately know how a person' mental health condition affects their ability to work?

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

bobajob_1966 wrote: »

Any condition could score 15 points, it is more a case of how the condition affects the individuals ability to work.

I am disabled and have read these descriptors. I would score way more than 15 points. According to the ESA scores I should be technically unfit for work.

This is so laughable because I actually work.

bobajob_1966

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

How do they correctly and accurately know how a person' mental health condition affects their ability to work?

That is the million dollar question! The DM *should* have evidence from several sources - the ESA50, medical reports from the GP and consultants, and if required, evidence from an ATOS medical. However, the theory assumes that all the evidence is completed fully, and the medics and claimant actually know what is required in the forms. Clearly in reality this is not always the case. Further, the DM should give equal weighting to all the evidence, but again this is often not the case.

I don't think it is a difficult system to get right - but at present, they are way off the mark!

Richie-from-the-Boro

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

I am disabled and have read these descriptors. I would score way more than 15 points. According to the ESA scores I should be technically unfit for work.

This is so laughable because I actually work.

There are 15 descriptors that each earn 15 points that's 225 points available from only 15 of the total descriptors.

Richie-from-the-Boro

A_Flock_Of_Sheep wrote: »

So which mental health conditions score 15 points?

Only two as far as I'm aware :

- Coping with social engagement due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

and

- Appropriateness of behaviour with other people, due to cognitive impairment or mental disorder.

[Deleted User]

one thing that confuses me,i get ib now(topped up with i/s)when im moved to esa will i be on income based or contr.based?
when i first claimed ib i assume i got con based as id worked for 25 years before i claimed

System

woodbine wrote: »

one thing that confuses me,i get ib now(topped up with i/s)when im moved to esa will i be on income based or contr.based?
when i first claimed ib i assume i got con based as id worked for 25 years before i claimed

Isn't it worked out on the last 2 tax years? So if that's based on IB i don't think you would? I'm probably wrong

Cpt.Scarlet

woodbine wrote: »

one thing that confuses me,i get ib now(topped up with i/s)when im moved to esa will i be on income based or contr.based?
when i first claimed ib i assume i got con based as id worked for 25 years before i claimed

You'll be transferred to Contribution Based ESA with the possibility of an Income Related ESA top up

[Deleted User]

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

You'll be transferred to Contribution Based ESA with the possibility of an Income Related ESA top up

so would that then be limited to 12 months?