partner ill...need leave from work ?

bendix

Wow . . . now, I'm receiving abusive anonymous PMs by someone setting up a new account just to send it. I wonder who that was from. Nice one :-)

bendix

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

To be fair Bendix; she doesn't mind taking it unpaid; she just wants to be there for her OH.

I had a chum who broke a foot; which seems less worse than the OP's OH; and she couldn't move let alone hobble to the loo.

We all have families, and want to be there for them.

Irrelevent. She also has a job and if it doesn't suit the employer for her to take that time off just because she feels she needs it, then she has no innate right to it.

It's called being an adult.

There is, of course, nothing to stop her quitting and taking care of the guy, but why should she expect her employer to bend over backwards simply because she wants it.

I suspect there was plenty of notice for this operation. She could easily have applied for annual leave a long time in advance.

Sambucus_Nigra

Not me chuck; I was chopping wood. If I was gonna abuse you I'd do it in public

Sambucus_Nigra

bendix wrote: »

Irrelevent. She also has a job and if it doesn't suit the employer for her to take that time off just because she feels she needs it, then she has no innate right to it.

It's called being an adult.

There is, of course, nothing to stop her quitting and taking care of the guy, but why should she expect her employer to bend over backwards simply because she wants it.

I suspect there was plenty of notice for this operation. She could easily have applied for annual leave a long time in advance.

She did, she asked them months ago and got the final date through last week....what else can you do?

stuckinmyflat

bendix he was given his operation date on fri, 1 weeks notice.... i told my manager that day ( plus i made them aware about 2 months ago that he would be going on the waiting list and i would need the time off)

smart !!!

bendix

Well, what are you gonna do?

Life's a !!!!!. Then you die.

Your employer didn't have the time to make alternative staffing arrangements in a week. Ergo, they can't let you have the time off.

I repeat; just because YOU think you have a good case, doesn't mean the other party in the affair - your bosses - have to agree.

You can rant and rave all you like. It doesnt change much.

bendix

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Not me chuck; I was chopping wood. If I was gonna abuse you I'd do it in public

It's ok. I know who it was. She thought she was smart, but she forgot that logging on in a new name doesn't change your IP address.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

2nd_Time_Lucky

DKLS wrote: »

I really wish mgt would realise what effect their mealy mouthed decisions can have.

I realised a long time ago that !!!! happens to staff, family die, people get ill, accidents happen you name it it can happen, I have found that being flexible and try to accommodate staff where possible you get so much more back.

Thats what i found when OH broke his back in an accident 7.30 am on a Friday morning. i phoned work who told me to go straight to hospital and not come in. The MD phoned on the Saturday and asked me what I wanted to do. As it was clear he would be in for weeks, she offered compassionate- paid- leave. I said i was happy to come in so i went flexitime and worked 7am til 3pm which let me arrive at hospital by 4pm to take over from the parents who visited 2-4pm. He was absolutely flat out on a spinal bed and had to be helped to eat /drink/toilet etc Thankfully the operation restored use of his right leg and now a year on, he is ok- not 100% but ok :T

The point is, that with some flexibility, my employer managed to give me loads of support- and the comfort that they gave a carp about me and i still managed to work a full week as well as mange my OH- that has resulted in everyone feeling that they havent lost out. I am allowed to take a half day at short notice if OH gets a clinic cancellation but if nec. i will take my laptop/answer the phone.

OP- i hope they do find you the ability to take some leave for your OH but i did find that once the NHS knew we were in an upstairs flat, they kept OH for another week whilst the local health authority did some adaptions to make the flat more useable- toilet etc so i would emphasise the unsuitability of your accomodation post op as a starter to finding a way around this issue.

SarEl

bendix wrote: »

It's ok. I know who it was. She thought she was smart, but she forgot that logging on in a new name doesn't change your IP address.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Excellent bluff there - but only the site administrators could identify an IP address I believe? But I do feel that abusive PM's is childish, and whoever is doing it wants to grow up.

Getting back to the OP, maybe if everyone calms down and talks rationally then there is still room for some discussion here. Maybe the OP thinks that they are entitled to some leave, paid or unpaid; but obviously the employer doesn't agree and it would appear that they are implementing the rules scrupulously. I know that it has been advised that the OP get a fit note from the doctor, and this is certainly an option. But it is also a potentially dangerous one since an employer does not have to accept such a note. Having kicked up so much of a fuss about the time off, the timing is going to raise more than a few eyebrows, and people have been disciplined for a lot less. Whether the employer would do so I can't say, but it is a risk.

As I suggested before - is it too late to see if anyone can swop some shifts with you? From the employers point of view, re-arranging shifts at short notice may be difficult, and I asume that in an NHS job not having someone in has implications for care standards or whatever. If someone is prepared to make the offer to swop with you then you could present a solution, rather than an argument - because argument seems to be getting you nowhere. Or is it possible to get someone to stay with your OH while you are at work - I presume you don't work 24 hours a day, and a small payment or a nice dinner might provide some cover while you are at work. Surely there has to be some leeway in this situation which will satisfy the requirements - even if it doesn't satisfy what you want?

DKLS

2nd_Time_Lucky wrote: »

Thats what i found when OH broke his back in an accident 7.30 am on a Friday morning. i phoned work who told me to go straight to hospital and not come in. The MD phoned on the Saturday and asked me what I wanted to do. As it was clear he would be in for weeks, she offered compassionate- paid- leave. I said i was happy to come in so i went flexitime and worked 7am til 3pm which let me arrive at hospital by 4pm to take over from the parents who visited 2-4pm. He was absolutely flat out on a spinal bed and had to be helped to eat /drink/toilet etc Thankfully the operation restored use of his right leg and now a year on, he is ok- not 100% but ok :T

The point is, that with some flexibility, my employer managed to give me loads of support- and the comfort that they gave a carp about me and i still managed to work a full week as well as mange my OH- that has resulted in everyone feeling that they havent lost out. I am allowed to take a half day at short notice if OH gets a clinic cancellation but if nec. i will take my laptop/answer the phone.

OP- i hope they do find you the ability to take some leave for your OH but i did find that once the NHS knew we were in an upstairs flat, they kept OH for another week whilst the local health authority did some adaptions to make the flat more useable- toilet etc so i would emphasise the unsuitability of your accomodation post op as a starter to finding a way around this issue.

With me I just see the bigger picture, the staff I have, I really value and dont want to lose for the sake of a week or twos leave.

Obviously I don't let people take the pizz out of me, but find that my flexibility as an employer does really pay dividends, when I need employees to go that extra mile