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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    The owner's negligence is no defence to a charge of theft.

    Maybe not but if he is a manager rather than an owner he/she may be looking for another job, oh entrapment is a defence though isn't it?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    When I say kitchen/diner, I don't require any other rooms downstairs. So one open plan room with the kitchen right there and a breakfast bar. Utility for utility stuff. Shed for bike. Garage for car. Simples.

    Something like this would be better for you than a 4 bed, perhaps?

    2 bed, garage, etc.

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-15374769.html

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-29065958.html?premiumA=true

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-29904557.html
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • jamespmg44
    jamespmg44 Posts: 130 Forumite
    Eventually, the nanny state will impose a maximum doors width - xxx
    Would that help you? A bit of state responsibility so you can say "oh no, it's not my fault. The big bad wolf done it and ran away...."
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Maybe not but if he is a manager rather than an owner he/she may be looking for another job, oh entrapment is a defence though isn't it?

    Entrapment isn't a blanket defence, no.

    Police entrap people all the time, trying to buy drugs off them / get dodgy minicabs, etc
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • nembot
    nembot Posts: 1,234 Forumite
    ciano125 wrote: »
    Because all the property programmes on TV told them it was such a great investment and they'd never lose money, it didn't really matter how much they spent as it would always be worth more, that and a certain someone saying that their government would put an end to boom and bust. The banks were quite happy to lend the money and they were stupid enough to take it all in.

    Does that answer your question?! ;)

    You don't get away with telling the truth on here you know ;)
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Maybe not but if he is a manager rather than an owner he/she may be looking for another job, oh entrapment is a defence though isn't it?
    there's different defnitions of neglect in court i think - 'wilful neglect' and gross neglect' and a couple of others
  • chucky wrote: »
    there's different defnitions of neglect in court i think - 'wilful neglect' and gross neglect' and a couple of others

    They tend to be elements in an offence, though. Proving that someone else was neglectful would rarely help a defendant.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    I'm not THAT rich :)

    With unlimited money (£300-400k) the choices become more. When your budget is much lower, there's less choice. In the cheap seats, it's easier to find a 4-bed detached, than a 2-bed detached quite often.

    So, taking personal responsibility, I am looking for stuff in my budget ... rather than exceeding it to find something the right size (actually smaller).
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    there's different defnitions of neglect in court i think - 'wilful neglect' and gross neglect' and a couple of others

    I didn't really mean to refer to legal definitions, I was really referring to my own opinion of who was to blame whether the court would find that way or not. It is bit like using the internet with no protection and ending up with your bank account emptied, who is to blame? How much would you be reinbursed by your bank? In fact if a shop left its doors open all night how much would they get bck from insurers if they were robbed?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    I'm not THAT rich :)

    With unlimited money (£300-400k) the choices become more. When your budget is much lower, there's less choice. In the cheap seats, it's easier to find a 4-bed detached, than a 2-bed detached quite often.

    It's an expensive part of the country, that - I was giving examples, more than suggestions, if you see what I mean?
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
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