Not allowed photography at school play??

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pipkin71 wrote: »

I think this answers the question:



http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=27476979&postcount=140

PP, I can understand why you are protecting your children, but having your picture on a public forum, when you have given information about where you are living now, means that it wouldn't be difficult for your ex to find you - even down to your door number, so you are putting your family at risk of being found.

Please really consider removing your avatar. This is a public forum and anyone could be reading your previous posts.

Exactly! and people post that much information without realising it, it certainly wouldn't be hard.

dieselhead

I still think that this fear of photographs has gone a bit too far. I can understand some of the reasons put forward for not wanting your children to be in pictures but to be perfectly honest the chances of being a victim of p eodophilla by a stranger are slim, especially from pictures from a school play.

I can see the issue with children in care but again surely the chances must be slim of a personal family photo album being seen by someone who can harm the child. I would think that again the children are more at risk in a trip to the shops or the park, far more opportunity to be seen and identified.

So I really think that the risk of anything bad happening is so slim that it unfair to stop children having a photographic record of their proudest childhood moments.

PrincessPlaty

Pipkin i have sent you a pm

Zazen999

a - not all men are p-ds
b - not all p-ds are men.
c - you CAN take images on private property until the owner asks you not to; which is why parents get the letters in advance.

Until the government work with internet providers to stop access to this material online; this banning of photos/films at child music events will continue.

Funny how they can do it with downloading music, and not child pron....would that be because big companies are breathing down their neck about the music but nobody is about the pron?

You are all directing your anger in the wrong direction.

westcountrymaid_2

lynzpower wrote: »

I have worked in social care, and the vast mjority of Peadophiles were the parents of the child or extended family member. So I dont get at all why a father cant take a picture of his own child, yet abuse him at home.

I too am horrified and saddened that some children will simply have no history. I love nothing more than flickign through old albums of me and my freinds in plays, swimming lessons, brownie camps. I feel so sad for kids who simply wont have a history to look back on.

The irony is that for those who work with Looked after children- their life story books are hugely important- as they wont have thier parents to remind them of what they did as children- so the book is there to have photos for that LAC, so they can then reember their childhoods, who theyve met etc.

Can anyone who works directly with Looked after children confirm what tiher approach is tolife story work with this in mind?

I agree with the history bit...only this week my 3 year old GD and I were looking at a video of her mum when she was an angel in the school nativity play, she absolutely loved seeing mummy dressed as an angel especially as she is about to take part in her very first nativity play at play-school this year. I'm not sure if we will be allowed to take photo's or video's, something I will have to find out but I would dearly love to add something else to the 'memory box'.

My daughter also watched the video and it brought back happy memories of old school friends and teachers.

mummy_Jay

I think the answer to the OP is that one or more parents have informed the school they do not wish their children photographed for what ever reason.

As for one poster suggestions of exclusion for these children, this isn't really a practical option, school plays take lots of time to prepare with the children, so to suggest that each day when they practise this child/children should be singled out and additional staff found to do something else with them, its just not practical.

School plays are not put on to be a photo opportunity for parents they are put on to help build childrens confidence and give them a sense of achievement. Can you not enjoy a play for what it is?

djtonyb

We've been told no photos or videos dueing our performance because the Schoold does not hold an entertainments license :cool:

We will however been allowed to take photos after the performance

bap98189

Paparika wrote: »

been like this for years

Unfortunately it is amazing some lengths !!!!!philes will go to get pictures of children, I know, i worked with them in the past and the training told you all about the grooming the will do.

Now I don't understand this argument. If a !!!!!phile wanted photos of children, why go to all the hassle of going to a school play. It's not exactly hard to get pictures of children going about their daily lives either on the internet or by taking some photos down the local park.

PolishBigSpender

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

Sorry i disagree with you there is nothing sick about it at all. If my daughter was caught in a photograph taken by another person and was then identified by her father that would put her, my other daughter and myself in extreme danger.

How is then anything sick about protecting children? Ok not everyones situation is the same as mine put as a previous poster said what about children that are 'looked after' nobody knows the circumstances of these children or what risk they could be at if they were identified.

Why is it ok to put another child at risk just for the sake of taking a few photographs of a school play?

Your situation is extreme though. You must admit this is rather rare!
I've got plenty of pictures of myself and my friends from school and nursery and somehow no one even thought about a ban on photography! And no kid was abused or groomed because of this!
What has changed in those 20-30 years? Are there really more peadophiles around, or are people just paranoid?

kingkano

Paparika wrote: »

ok I'm going to tell you a story, it's real, and it happens every single day.

Imagine a mum with lets say three children 1, 3, and 8 youngest is in a buggy, mum has dragged the kids to a supermarket to do the weekly shop, she is a lone parent, no one to look after the kids whilst she shops so she takes them with her, when she leaves the store it has started to tip down.


A man nicely dressed, looks cheerful, walks past, he notices she is struggling with the bags of shopping and the children, the rain is really falling now, and the mum is trying to get to the bus stop, he asks if she needs any help, she says no thanks, he asks, are you going to the bus stop, she says yes, hes kind in his manner and says look let me help you, your getting soaked, (the kids are screaming, the bags look like they are about to split) so she agrees that yes just to the bus stop. He helps her, asks where she is going, she doesn't want to say, he leaves it like that.

The following week he finds her again at the supermarket, says hello to her and the children, she remembers him so doesn't see his as much of a stranger now. He tells her his name, and where he lives, she tells him where she lives.....

oh he says, I'm going that way after the shopping want a lift, no she says still unsure, he produces some sweets for the children and asks is it ok for them to have them, yes she says, the children are happy. he continues to have friendly chatter and asks again, look i am going your way, it's raining, be quicker to get you and the kids home, she says ok yes thanks.

He drives her home, lots of friendly chat, asking questions, helps the bags to the door, he notices the light isn't working in the hall way, oh he says, do you have a light bulb, yes she says, just haven't got around to it. Oh give it here, i'll do it, won't take a second, then i must go.

She gives him a light bulb and he replaces the bulb for her, he smiles and says i must go, but I'd like to see you again, she agrees, and they do meet up, he becomes her boyfriend, but what she didn't know... he is buying his time, what he really wants is the 3 year old, but he waits, he prefers 5 year old girls, he will wait until she is 5. once he has finished, he will dump the woman, and pass information on to the next man, who will again befriend the woman to get at her children, if they fit the ages he desires.

This isn't made up. Scare you, so it should. that man spent a few years being the perfect boyfriend, went to the school plays, took pictures, passed those pictures on to his 'friends'.

You can criticise the way the woman allowed him into her life, but in all honesty....she was lonely, he was paying her attention, made it clear he wanted to see her, they became boyfriend / girlfriend, she didn't know what his motives were until after he left.

Sorry to bring the thread back to this, but I think your story is a sad reflection on how f*(%ed up society has become. I constantly have to fight my own good nature - I would like to offer to assist in these kinds of circumstances. I didnt realise I would be accused of being a peado for the offer though! So thats DEFINITELY going to help me ignore people in obvious need of assistance in future!

And people honestly wonder why society has gone to the dogs?