work related suicide rise - a sign of the times

ninky_2

Another call centre worker kills themselves at France Telecom...

"The suicides are disturbing because they are, on one level, a modern plague with implications well beyond France. The number of suicides, especially work-related suicides, has been increasing in almost all developed nations.
The France Telecom victims have mostly been previously well-adjusted people in their 40s and 50s whose familiar working lives have been turned upside down by the triumph of the mobile telephone and the internet. Tens of thousands of France Telecom workers were once needed to deal with physical repair or installation work on land lines. Others dealt with familiar business clients. Frequently, they worked in teams.
The decline of land lines and the transformation of France Telecom into a successful mobile phone and internet provider has abolished the need for many of these jobs. But the employees remain.
Long-standing telecoms workers retain the protected status of French public servants. France Telecom cannot easily make them redundant. Instead, the company, which was spun-off in 1996 and became majority private-owned in 2004, is accused of adopting "bullying" tactics to "encourage" unwanted workers to leave the company. Many of the employees have been pitched overnight into faceless, high-pressure call-centres, where they are expected to compete for results against the person sitting in the next booth. "

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/why-are-so-many-france-telecom-workers-dying-1795171.html

When does paid employment become 'inhumane'? Should we be concerned?

mewbie_2

Unusual article. Shocking headline and story, but further in you read this...

"The 24 suicides among the 100,000 France Telecom employees since February last year is high but less than the overall French average (17.6 suicides a year for every 100,000 people, compared to 6.8 in Britain).
The suicide rate in France Telecom is, in fact, falling. It was higher six or seven years ago but received little publicity. There were 29 suicides among France Telecom employees in 2002, 22 in 2003, 12 in 2008 and 12 so far this year."

...and wonder what was the point?

phil_b_2

Honestly... I don't know what to expect next on this forum. Of all the things to be reading and concerned about in your life I'd put this pretty far down the list.

lostinrates

phil_b wrote: »

Honestly... I don't know what to expect next on this forum. Of all the things to be reading and concerned about in your life I'd put this pretty far down the list.

I was considering asking a question about workplace Christmas functions this year (whether they are planned to be swankier than last year, cancelled or what). But I though suicide probably trumped that, so I decided to let it be. For now.

Cleaver

“A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”

Ayatollah Khomeini from his book, "Tahrirolvasyleh"

I think I read the same thing in Alan Sugar's autobiography.

fc123

and there was me thinking of updating The Tweed thread later on...maybe not.:o

Gosh.

lostinrates

fc123 wrote: »

and there was me thinking of updating The Tweed thread later on...maybe not.:o

Gosh.

Oh, please, do. Its highly relevant.

fc123

lostinrates wrote: »

Oh, please, do. Its highly relevant.

I may not have time tonight...and I was really rude last night,.....so busy googling crofts and supplies I didn't directly respond to your posts...but In my head I did....do you know what I mean?

OH been in leicester today picking up some stuff we have had made so, when he get's back, it's all chaos.
Derelict cottage turns into a stock house for a few days.

lostinrates

fc123 wrote: »

I was really rude last night,.....so busy googling crofts and supplies I didn't directly respond to your posts...but In my head I did....do you know what I mean?.

didn't notice.;) so I must know what you mean.

treliac

lostinrates wrote: »

I was considering asking a question about workplace Christmas functions this year (whether they are planned to be swankier than last year, cancelled or what). But I though suicide probably trumped that, so I decided to let it be. For now.

Likely to be much the same for people in still in work. 'Workplace' won't exist for those who aren't!

Generali

Cleaver wrote: »

“A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”

Ayatollah Khomeini from his book, "Tahrirolvasyleh"

I think I read the same thing in Alan Sugar's autobiography.

It's an urban myth. Islam doesn't sanction beastiality.

This is the translation into English of the book:

http://www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/index.html