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highpark1
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New Deal £4 Weekly Travel Expenses Deduction New Deal £4 Weekly Travel Expenses Deduction
The Training Allowance
New Deal participants who claim for travel expenses are deducted £4 per week from their Training Allowance.
The Training Allowance and The Law
The law does mention about the extra weekly payment while on New Deal, it however doesnt mention that:
The Training Allowance being for, intended to be for or expected to be for, travel or food.
It makes no acknowledgement of any lawful authority of £4 having been deducted each week (which is probably why the amount of training allowance werent £4 less even though obviously not everyone would claim travel)
Where does the £4 deduction come from then?
The £4 per week deduction is a contractual agreement between the Jobcentre/DWP and the New Deal provider. The £4 deduction is advised in the Provider Guidance (available on the DWP website). As the name suggests this is only guidance (I have spent a week checking up on the various laws to make sure) but the New Deal prime contractor provider has to follow this as the contract makes reference to it. This still makes it illegal it doesnt change this.
What is the legalities about this?
It is unlawful for the £4 per week travel deduction being made (especially when the other option is being out of pocket receiving no reimbursement at all). The New Deal provider are only doing this act because failure to do so could cause them problems as its is a condition for the contract.
How much is it worth?
If you didnt claim travel then it is not worth anything. Also note that if you have been on New Deal previously you can also claim for then plus interest. You can only claim for the actual amount of weeks you have done though.
13 weeks @ £4 per week = £52 (around a weeks benefit money)
If you have been on New Deal 3 times (and claimed every week for travel) you are looking at £156 (plus interest).
Interest
This dont work out as much as you cant charge the rate set by banks etc. Use a Court Interest Calculator to work out how much you can apply for.
How do I get my money back?
You would have to write to either the New Deal provider or Jobcentre Plus. I would suggest the New Deal provider they are a private business and have no lawful authority to tax you, whereas Jobcentre Plus does whatever it wants.
Just some points to remember:
Quote the amounts with a break down of number of weeks @ £4, the sub total, the interest (if applicable) and total
Give them a deadline (7 or 14 days are typically a good choice)
Remind them of a possible class action court case
Tell them about the dates you were on programme (can be slightly estimated if unsure)
It is better if you submitted your claim at the same time as others
Spread the word
Feel free to spread the word amongst other New Deal participants past and present.
Keep us updated on the response you hear back via the below comments.
Class action lawsuit
If New Deal providers and Jobcentre Plus refuse reimbursement as a group we could collectively take this to court. The amount in this scam could be as much as £50 million. (Depending on the number of participants claiming and number of weeks) I would estimate at least £2 million.
The Training Allowance
New Deal participants who claim for travel expenses are deducted £4 per week from their Training Allowance.
The Training Allowance and The Law
The law does mention about the extra weekly payment while on New Deal, it however doesnt mention that:
The Training Allowance being for, intended to be for or expected to be for, travel or food.
It makes no acknowledgement of any lawful authority of £4 having been deducted each week (which is probably why the amount of training allowance werent £4 less even though obviously not everyone would claim travel)
Where does the £4 deduction come from then?
The £4 per week deduction is a contractual agreement between the Jobcentre/DWP and the New Deal provider. The £4 deduction is advised in the Provider Guidance (available on the DWP website). As the name suggests this is only guidance (I have spent a week checking up on the various laws to make sure) but the New Deal prime contractor provider has to follow this as the contract makes reference to it. This still makes it illegal it doesnt change this.
What is the legalities about this?
It is unlawful for the £4 per week travel deduction being made (especially when the other option is being out of pocket receiving no reimbursement at all). The New Deal provider are only doing this act because failure to do so could cause them problems as its is a condition for the contract.
How much is it worth?
If you didnt claim travel then it is not worth anything. Also note that if you have been on New Deal previously you can also claim for then plus interest. You can only claim for the actual amount of weeks you have done though.
13 weeks @ £4 per week = £52 (around a weeks benefit money)
If you have been on New Deal 3 times (and claimed every week for travel) you are looking at £156 (plus interest).
Interest
This dont work out as much as you cant charge the rate set by banks etc. Use a Court Interest Calculator to work out how much you can apply for.
How do I get my money back?
You would have to write to either the New Deal provider or Jobcentre Plus. I would suggest the New Deal provider they are a private business and have no lawful authority to tax you, whereas Jobcentre Plus does whatever it wants.
Just some points to remember:
Quote the amounts with a break down of number of weeks @ £4, the sub total, the interest (if applicable) and total
Give them a deadline (7 or 14 days are typically a good choice)
Remind them of a possible class action court case
Tell them about the dates you were on programme (can be slightly estimated if unsure)
It is better if you submitted your claim at the same time as others
Spread the word
Feel free to spread the word amongst other New Deal participants past and present.
Keep us updated on the response you hear back via the below comments.
Class action lawsuit
If New Deal providers and Jobcentre Plus refuse reimbursement as a group we could collectively take this to court. The amount in this scam could be as much as £50 million. (Depending on the number of participants claiming and number of weeks) I would estimate at least £2 million.
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