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BBC News - First Time Buyers Are Rich?

So I was just reading this article on the BBC News website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8004114.stm

What greatly amused me was at the very end:

"First-time buyers now spend an average of £445 a month on mortgage repayments, representing 11.2% of the household income.
In 2000 the average repayment was £252, or 9.6% of their income."


I am currently renting at a little over £400 a month but are astounded that in the average home, this should be about 11% of my income... thats a monthly household income of £3700 per month.


Fair enough i am the only earner since my partner was made redundant last year but still, if i take the figure we earned before that happened, it was still 22% of the income, double what they have here and thats on the average wage of everyone I know. On my own, our rent is 40% of my income.


So I would love to meet this average that makes it 11% because i have never seen people made out of thin air before.
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  • mitchaa
    mitchaa Posts: 4,487 Forumite
    dgwebster wrote: »
    So I was just reading this article on the BBC News website:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8004114.stm

    What greatly amused me was at the very end:

    "First-time buyers now spend an average of £445 a month on mortgage repayments, representing 11.2% of the household income.
    In 2000 the average repayment was £252, or 9.6% of their income."


    I am currently renting at a little over £400 a month but are astounded that in the average home, this should be about 11% of my income... thats a monthly household income of £3700 per month.


    Fair enough i am the only earner since my partner was made redundant last year but still, if i take the figure we earned before that happened, it was still 22% of the income, double what they have here and thats on the average wage of everyone I know. On my own, our rent is 40% of my income.


    So I would love to meet this average that makes it 11% because i have never seen people made out of thin air before.

    £4000 /100 = £40 x 11.2 = £448

    So the average household income is £4000 :D That's like a joint income of around £66-67k
  • Alex_LS
    Alex_LS Posts: 197 Forumite
    Net or gross?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    It doesnt make much sense.

    The story says they are really struggling, with the average house price being £96,835.

    Yet on the other hand, the story makes it look as if average income is 4k per month or 48k a year.

    It also says they need a deposit of 20k to buy these £96k homes.

    Well whats the problem? Going on the story only, average 96k is 2x average household income.

    Think someones got their sums wrong! Or, they have taken the UK average and used that against the scottish average in the house price above. Which doesnt work.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    My mortgage was £440 in 1989 and RPI is up around 80% since then, interest rates were 15% though :eek: I am surprised it is so low.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Castleman
    Castleman Posts: 365 Forumite
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    Most people I know that are renting or paying off their FTB mortgage, aged <30, are paying more like 40% of monthly income!
  • Daughter and partner FTB's in south east - mortgage repayment £900

    Income 1 £32000 - take home £2000

    Income 2 £21000 - taken home £1400

    Roughly 25% of take home

    to rent a similar house in the same area would cost roughly the same.
  • k_bagpuss
    k_bagpuss Posts: 502 Forumite
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    I'm just waiting to complete on my first house too. Current rent for a small 2 bed flat in Newcastle is £495 pcm. Mortgage is going to be £950 pcm. Mind you, it is a Scotland report so not sure how relevant it is to other area's
    Good wine needs to breathe, if it stops breathing try mouth to mouth.
  • well im from scotlando
    out take home per month ME 600
    partner S/E - Averaged 1600
    so thats 2200 before tax a amonth mortgage quote we have been given £380 a month

    what percentage si taht?
    "Lifes a climb - but the view up in fantastic"
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  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    well im from scotlando
    out take home per month ME 600
    partner S/E - Averaged 1600
    so thats 2200 before tax a amonth mortgage quote we have been given £380 a month

    what percentage si taht?

    Maybe one of the new questions mortgage providers should ask new customers is whether they can understand basic maths and finance principles, such as working out simple percentages.

    It's around 17%.
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    Cleaver wrote: »
    Maybe one of the new questions mortgage providers should ask new customers is whether they can understand basic maths and finance principles, such as working out simple percentages.

    It's around 17%.
    I make it 225.3754128%? I guess that's the difference with Open Source software.
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