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Goldlake, Victoria - Bushfires - BTL Landlord on the Radio

Just listening to Aus radio, and a cheeky BTL LL just phoned up whining that he'd lost his house. It was tenanted (they got out OK). He said renters get sorted out with some assistance, as do owner-occupiers.... but those poor BTL LLs don't qualify for any assistance.

First question the DJ asked was "are you insured?" and he said he was, but then so were renters/OOs maybe. It just struck me how crass it seemed for him to whine.

It seems a LOT of properties up that way are BTL/holiday lets.

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Pastures, do you know why NDG no longer posts? I thought she may be back today after holiday.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Generali
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    Just listening to Aus radio, and a cheeky BTL LL just phoned up whining that he'd lost his house. It was tenanted (they got out OK). He said renters get sorted out with some assistance, as do owner-occupiers.... but those poor BTL LLs don't qualify for any assistance.

    First question the DJ asked was "are you insured?" and he said he was, but then so were renters/OOs maybe. It just struck me how crass it seemed for him to whine.

    It seems a LOT of properties up that way are BTL/holiday lets.

    Lots of urban people get a BTL in rural areas with the idea that they'll take an early retirement from their existing career and become small holders.

    A couple of friends bought a hundred odd acres of land and then bought a house that was being demolished and had it brought on a couple of lorries to their property - it was a 'Queenslander' so they sawed through the props it was standing on and basically cut the house in two, loaded it onto a couple of trucks who drove it to NSW and then reassembled it for them. The whole process took about 6 weeks.

    They let the house and garden to a local farm hand and some of the land to his boss for grazing.

    BTL isn't such a problem in Aus AIUI as there is a genuine shortage of rental properties, at least in the areas I know. It gets pretty favourable tax treatment here too - I think you can offset any costs or losses against other parts of your income for example, not just against the rent.

    This is what a Queenslander looks like:

    Link
  • dopester
    dopester Posts: 4,890 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Lots of urban people get a BTL in rural areas with the idea that they'll take an early retirement from their existing career and become small holders.

    This is what a Queenslander looks like:

    Transportable homes. It could use a lick of paint. In retirement I wouldn't like to have to negotiate those steps every day. Even less so if I become a bit frail. Perhaps they could build a mini-lift. Or is that the back of the house and the front on the other side?

    I guess it is pretty macho to hang a punching-bag underneath as in that example. Could serve as a car-port or for storage or equipment too as well I suppose.
  • Got sent this today and thought of you Generali...

    Subject: Diary of an Englishman in Australia


    August 31

    Just got transferred with work from grey old London to our new home in
    Newman, Western Australia.
    Now this is a town that knows how to live!
    Beautiful, sunny days and warm, balmy evenings. I watched the sunset from a
    deckchair by the pool yesterday. It was beautiful. I've finally found my new
    home. I love it here.



    September 13

    Really heating up now. It got to 31 today. No problem though. Living in
    air-conditioned home, driving air-conditioned car. What a pleasure to see
    the sun every day like this. I'm turning into a sun-worshipper.



    September 30th

    Had the back yard landscaped with tropical plants today. Lots of palms and
    rocks. No more mowing lawns for me. Another scorcher today, but I love it
    here.



    October 10th

    The temperature hasn't been below 35 all week. How do people get used to
    this kind of heat? At least today it's windy though. Keeps the flies off a
    bit. Acclimatising is taking longer than I expected.



    October 15th

    Fell asleep by the pool yesterday. Got third degree burns over 60% of my
    body. Missed three days of work. What a dumb thing to do! Got to respect
    the ol' sun in a climate like this.



    October 20th

    Didn't notice Kitty (our cat) sneaking into the car before I left for work
    this morning. By the time I got back to the car after work, Kitty had died
    and swollen up to the size of a shopping bag and stuck to the upholstery.
    The car now smells like Whiskettes and cat !!!!. I've learned my lesson
    though: no more pets in this heat.



    October 25

    This wind is a !!!!!!!. It feels like a giant f*ckin' blow dryer. And it's
    hot as hell! The home air conditioner is on the blink and the repair man
    charged $200 just to drive over and tell me he needs to order parts from
    f*ckin' Perth.



    October 30th

    The temperature's up around 40 and the parts still haven't arrived for the
    f*ckin' aircon. Been sleeping outside by the pool for three nights now.
    Bloody $800,000 house and we can't even go inside. Why the hell did I ever
    come here?



    November 4

    Finally got the ol' aircon fixed. It cost $1,500 and gets the temperature
    down to around 25 degrees, but the humidity makes it feel about 30.
    Stupid repairman.



    November 8

    If one more smart !!!! says 'Hot enough for you today?', I'm going to
    f*ckin' throttle him. f*ckin' heat! By the time I get to work, the car's
    radiator is boiling over, my clothes are soaking f*ckin' wet and I smell
    like baked cat!



    November 9

    Tried to run some errands after work, wore shorts, and sat on the black
    leather upholstery in the ol' car. I thought my f*ckin' !!!! was on fire. I
    lost two layers of flesh, all the hair on the backs of my legs and my
    f*ckin' !!!!. Now the car smells like burnt hair, fried !!!! and baked cat!




    November 10

    Weather report! It might as well be a f*ckin' recording. Hot and sunny. Hot
    and sunny, Hot and f*ckin' sunny! It's been too hot to do anything for two
    f*ckin' months and the weatherman says it might really warm up next week.
    Doesn't it ever rain in this damn f*ckin' place. Water restrictions will be
    next, so my $5,000 worth of palms might just dry up and blow into the
    f*ckin' pool. The only things that thrive in this hell-hole are the f*ckin'
    flies. You don't dare open your mouth for fear of swallowing half a dozen of
    the f*ckers!



    November 20th

    Welcome to HELL! It got to 45 f*ckin' degrees today. Now the air
    conditioner's gone in my car. The repair man came to fix it and said, 'Hot
    enough for you today?' My wife had to spend the $2,500 mortgage payment to
    bail me out of jail for assaulting the stupid f*cker. f*ckin' Newman! What
    kind of sick, demented f*ckin' idiot would want to live here!



    December 1

    WHAT!!!! The first day of Summer!!!! You are f*ckin' kidding!
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Pastures, do you know why NDG no longer posts? I thought she may be back today after holiday.
    No idea.. maybe she's unpacking :)
    And washing the sand out of her shorts.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Got sent this today and thought of you Generali..

    Directions from my house (near enough) to Newman, WA:

    Link

    When they say 2 days, 7 hours driving they mean 55 hours behind the wheel. If you're not a speed freak (that's amphetamines not driving quickly) then you're looking at about a week. I like the direction, turn right and continue for 1,199km!
    Driving directions to Newman WA
    4,533 km – about 2 days 7 hours

    icon_greenA.pngBotany NSW


    camera_dr1.png
    1.Head northwest on Botany Rd toward Bay Stcamera_dr1.png0.7 km
    2.Slight left at Mill Pond Drcamera_dr1.png0.2 km
    3.Turn left at General Holmes Drcamera_dr1.png0.3 km
    4.Slight right to stay on General Holmes Drcamera_dr1.png2.1 km
    5.Slight left at South Western Mwycamera_dr1.png27.4 km
    6.Continue on South Western Fwycamera_dr1.png41.8 km
    7.Continue on Hume Hwycamera_dr1.png126 km
    8.Slight right to stay on Hume Hwycamera_dr1.png204 km
    9.Take the ramp onto Sturt Hwy Go through 3 roundabouts
    camera_dr1.png140 km
    10.Turn left at Newell Hwycamera_dr1.png0.8 km
    11.Continue on Sturt Hwy Go through 1 roundabout
    camera_dr1.png300 km
    12.Slight left to stay on Sturt Hwycamera_dr1.png80.3 km
    13.At the roundabout, take the 3rd exit and stay on Sturt Hwy Entering Victoria
    camera_dr1.png78.1 km
    14.Turn right to stay on Sturt Hwycamera_dr1.png0.6 km
    15.Turn left to stay on Sturt Hwy Entering South Australia
    camera_dr1.png142 km
    16.Turn left to stay on Sturt Hwycamera_dr1.png23.2 km
    17.Turn right at Morgan Renmark Rdcamera_dr1.png88.7 km
    18.Turn right at Morgan Tcecamera_dr1.png4.0 km
    19.Continue on Spalding Burramble Morgan Rdcamera_dr1.png79.8 km
    20.Continue on Ludgvan Stcamera_dr1.png0.7 km
    21.Slight left at Barrier Hwycamera_dr1.png6.7 km
    22.Turn left at Ford Rdcamera_dr1.png7.4 km
    23.Continue on New Rdcamera_dr1.png26.0 km
    24.Slight left at Spalding Burra Rdcamera_dr1.png0.6 km
    25.Continue on Davies Tcecamera_dr1.png0.3 km
    26.Turn right at Clare Peterborough Rdcamera_dr1.png0.3 km
    27.Turn left to stay on Clare Peterborough Rdcamera_dr1.png4.1 km
    28.Turn left at Gulnare Spalding Rdcamera_dr1.png16.2 km
    29.Turn right at Main North Rdcamera_dr1.png2.1 km
    30.Turn left at Clare Hwycamera_dr1.png24.2 km
    31.Continue on Darbon Tcecamera_dr1.png1.2 km
    32.Slight left at Frith Rdcamera_dr1.png2.4 km
    33.Turn right at Princes Hwycamera_dr1.png21.0 km
    34.Slight left at Warnertown Rdcamera_dr1.png0.4 km
    35.Continue straight onto Princes Hwycamera_dr1.png90.2 km
    36.Slight left at Eyre Hwycamera_dr1.png24.2 km
    37.Turn right to stay on Eyre Hwycamera_dr1.png130 km
    38.Turn left to stay on Eyre Hwycamera_dr1.png88.5 km
    39.Turn right to stay on Eyre Hwycamera_dr1.png222 km
    40.Continue on Kuhlmann St Go through 1 roundabout
    camera_dr1.png1.0 km
    41.Turn right at Eyre Hwy Entering Western Australia
    camera_dr1.png1,199 km
    42.Turn right at Coolgardie Esperance Hwycamera_dr1.png110 km
    43.Turn right at Goldfields Hwycamera_dr1.png19.4 km
    44.Turn left to stay on Goldfields Hwycamera_dr1.png49.0 km
    45.At the roundabout, take the 2nd exit onto Lane Stcamera_dr1.png0.3 km
    46.Slight left at Goldfields Hwycamera_dr1.png543 km
    47.Turn left to stay on Goldfields Hwycamera_dr1.png0.2 km
    48.Turn left to stay on Goldfields Hwycamera_dr1.png181 km
    49.Turn right at Great Northern Hwycamera_dr1.png419 km
    50.Turn left at Kalgan Drcamera_dr1.png2.1 km

    icon_greenB.pngNewman WA




  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Got sent this today and thought of you Generali...

    LOL.
    Brilliant.

    It's here too: http://www.aussiemove.com/aus/chat.asp?t=20335
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    dopester wrote: »
    Transportable homes. It could use a lick of paint. In retirement I wouldn't like to have to negotiate those steps every day. Even less so if I become a bit frail. Perhaps they could build a mini-lift. Or is that the back of the house and the front on the other side?

    I guess it is pretty macho to hang a punching-bag underneath as in that example. Could serve as a car-port or for storage or equipment too as well I suppose.

    They're not designed as portable homes, they can be transported with a little ingenuity.

    Queensland people don't get frail IME. Mrs Generali's grandmother (northern QLD) is 90(?) and delivers meals on wheels. She lives in a proper Queenslander with no aircon nor fly screens that her OH built despite having no skills or indeed obvious latent talent as a builder.

    Most people store their car(s), tools and spare venomous snakes under the house.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    Most people store their car(s), tools and spare venomous snakes under the house.

    or raise the house a couple of feet and build another storey. quite a few of my girlfriend's family and friends have done that. some of them still have the punchbag hanging in the middle of the new downstairs room.
  • LOL.
    Brilliant.

    It's here too: http://www.aussiemove.com/aus/chat.asp?t=20335

    Agree - excellent post! :rotfl:
    Mortgage Free in 3 Years (Apr 2007 / Currently / Δ Difference)
    [strike]● Interest Only Pt: £36,924.12 / £ - - - - 1.00 / Δ £36,923.12[/strike] - Paid off! Yay!! :)
    ● Home Extension: £48,468.07 / £44,435.42 / Δ £4032.65
    ● Repayment Part: £64,331.11 / £59,877.15 / Δ £4453.96
    Total Mortgage Debt: £149,723.30 / £104,313.57 / Δ £45,409.73
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