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Most impressive spin ever!

Apologies if this has already been posted... couldn't see it

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/property_and_mortgages/article4615403.ece

Gist: Times journalist finds that
22,369 house purchase mortgages approved in June
+22,448 approved in July
= "hopes that the worst of the drought in the home-loans market may have passed"

Sorry? 79 houses? Over all of Britain? a 0.35% month on month rise?!! I don't even need to load up stata to tell you that is not significant! I cannot believe someone actually spent time spinning this into a positive news story!

Best bit - as some bright spark noted in the comments - there were 21 working days in June, and 23 in July... so on a per day basis, 1065 approved in June and 976 in July, so actually it is a 8.4% drop in approvals ... :rotfl:
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  • Chris2685
    Chris2685 Posts: 1,212 Forumite
    How many were approved in July '07, or '06?
  • morg_monster
    morg_monster Posts: 2,392 Forumite
    Good question. One I can't find exact answers to in the time it takes me to drink my tea, BUT in the most recent press release which presumably informed this piece of high quality journalism there is a useful graph on page 1 which basically shows that July '07 approvals for house purchases probably numbered about 64,000 and in '06 closer to 70,000.

    http://www.bba.org.uk/content/1/c6/01/44/49/stats260808.pdf

    Also this graph shows (i think) the interesting story of remortgages; the peak in January as (presumably) everyone scrambled to get a decent rate, and now the tailing off as I guess people are hanging on to SVRs, waiting to see what will happen to mortgage interest rates.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Also, schools finish in July, so many parents will have been wanting to move after their little darlings finished the term ... and not in the middle of a term or exams.
  • WTF?_2
    WTF?_2 Posts: 4,592 Forumite
    Not to worry - it's just a matter of waiting for the 'spring bounce' I'm sure.

    I'm sure the by-then deepening recession won't put anyone off. After all there's apparently a shortage of property and we live on an island you know..... :D
    --
    Every pound less borrowed (to buy a house) is more than two pounds less to repay and more than three pounds less to earn, over the course of a typical mortgage.
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    !!!!!!? wrote: »
    Not to worry - it's just a matter of waiting for the 'spring bounce' I'm sure.

    I'm sure the by-then deepening recession won't put anyone off. After all there's apparently a shortage of property and we live on an island you know..... :D
    You can't build land...
  • !!!!!!? wrote: »
    we live on an island you know..... :D

    Blimey, do we?

    <looks round, sees no sea. Concludes !!!!!! is wrong>
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • mewbie wrote: »
    You can't build land...

    Everytime I see that, I think of the Dutch, and that new Far East airport built on invented land.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • planemad
    planemad Posts: 569 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    !!!!!!? wrote: »
    Not to worry - it's just a matter of waiting for the 'spring bounce' I'm sure.

    I'm sure the by-then deepening recession won't put anyone off. After all there's apparently a shortage of property and we live on an island you know..... :D

    So is Japan - except their population is a lot higher than ours and their property prices have fallen for the last ten years.
  • turbobob
    turbobob Posts: 1,500 Forumite
    planemad wrote: »
    So is Japan - except their population is a lot higher than ours and their property prices have fallen for the last ten years.

    And they have had zero or near zero interest rates for years as well IIRC :)
  • mewbie wrote:
    You can't build land...
    Everytime I see that, I think of the Dutch, and that new Far East airport built on invented land.

    Yes, that's true! Just go take a look how much "land" Singapore has reclaimed (built) from the sea.
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