We All Want Our Own Homes!

dopester

pickledpink wrote: »

You're obviously of the mindset who expects others to pay for their nice homes. You know, the type of people who DEMAND things from landlords or the council - while squirreling their spare dosh away to save up for a cheap flashy car.

Few landlords seem to tire from the sweet-dream their stupid tenants are paying off their mortgage for them.

If they don't maintain their properties to a decent standard, and don't do the fixes in timely fashion - well don't complain if the tenant leaves. There is every more choice for those who rent now you realise?

Cars have nothing to do with this. We could easily accuse landlords and home-owners of MEW-ing away for nice fancy cars on the bank of ludicrous HPI. Some tenants may actually save you realise? Not all tenants blow their money and believe property to be the number 1 investment.

To me property is the worse possible investment which has peaked, the insane bubble has popped, and now I can watch those locked in, with so many sellers unable to sell, watching the value of their homes which they had mentally fixed in price in their minds as "their wealth", crash hard.

motch

pickledpink wrote: »

Good for you, Gracie!

You're obviously of the mindset who expects others to pay for their nice homes. You know, the type of people who DEMAND things from landlords or the council - while squirreling their spare dosh away to save up for a cheap flashy car.

Trashed the cooker??? Make the landlord pay!!

Filthied the paintwork??? Make the landlord decorate it!

Some people would call your type spongers of society.:o

Pickledpink - when people invest in BTL it's a business, they have to take the rough with the smooth. If it's not for them they shouldn't be in the business.

Sounds like the poster you had a go at is working and renting a house, paying their way in life.

pickledpink

dopester wrote: »

Few landlords seem to tire from the sweet-dream their stupid tenants are paying off their mortgage for them.

If they don't maintain their properties to a decent standard, and don't do the fixes in timely fashion - well don't complain if the tenant leaves. There is every more choice for those who rent now you realise?

Cars have nothing to do with this. We could easily accuse landlords and home-owners of MEW-ing away for nice fancy cars on the bank of ludicrous HPI. Some tenants may actually save you realise? Not all tenants blow their money and believe property to be the number 1 investment.

To me property is the worse possible investment which has peaked, the insane bubble has popped, and now I can watch those locked in, with so many sellers unable to sell, watching the value of their homes which they had mentally fixed in price in their minds as "their wealth", crash hard.

Why are you calling tenants stupid?

I'm sure there's many tenants who milk their position to the hilt!

Most landlords don't want to see their properties trashed..............and I'm sure most tenants don't want to rent slums. But there's plenty of tenants who don't give 2 hoots about the place - and will even go out of their way to trash it simply because it doesn't belong to them!

You only have to look at council estates to see that many rented flats are trashed - whilst those that have been bought are treated with care and are well maintained. What does that tell you?

Jumping_Bean

pickledpink wrote: »

You only have to look at council estates to see that many rented flats are trashed - whilst those that have been bought are treated with care and are well maintained. What does that tell you?

Please enlighten us. What does it tell us?

clobber_2

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

Your logic is faulty. Those of us that enjoy renting are lazy and f3ckless? Errr yes, whatever. I do pay rent you know, my landlord doesn't provide me with a flat out of the goodness of his little heart.

He chooses to make money by owning and renting out property. I choose to make money doing what I'm good at. Everybody's happy.

Bless you though for worrying about my needs, wants and moral behaviour. Bless your little fretful white bobby socks. It's very sweet, really, but I'm OK as I am.

dopester

You're a landlord aren't you PickledPink ?

Over-stretched yourself have we? Watching the value of your portfolio lose tens of thousands every few months?

Trying to offload some of your BTLs? :rotfl:

GracieP

pickledpink wrote: »

Good for you, Gracie!

You're obviously of the mindset who expects others to pay for their nice homes. You know, the type of people who DEMAND things from landlords or the council - while squirreling their spare dosh away to save up for a cheap flashy car.

Trashed the cooker??? Make the landlord pay!!

Filthied the paintwork??? Make the landlord decorate it!

Some people would call your type spongers of society.:o

Seeing as how close to half my household income is paid in taxes I doubt anyone would consider us spongers. Seeing as how for the majority of my career I have worked for NGO's like Oxfam and Barnardo's for a fraction of the salary my contemporaries in the private sector earned I doubt I could be considered a sponger. (Although I admit that the fact my husband is a high(ish) earner made living in London on a NGO salary more doable.) Seeing as how I worked full time all through uni, I don't think I could be considered a sponger. Seeing as how I spent my teens and early 20's doing volunteer work for AIDS, third world debt, environmental and local community charities I doubt I could be considered a sponger.

My household doesn't have a car, we have bikes, oystercards and membership of Streetcar. About 90% of our goods were bought on ebay or in charity shops. I shopped in Lidl/Aldi long before they were cool. My favourite activity is taking my dogs for a long walk. I'm about as flash as ditch water. Although we do splash out on fast fiber optic broadband and the occasional graphic novel.:cool:

We pay market rate for a service. That service includes fixing broken appliances in addition to use of the house. The fact that my payment for that service is about 3 times less than recent buyers on my street pay on their mortgage is not an indication of my greed, rather an indication of how totally screwed the housing market is. I feel sorry for people who are struggling, a lot of my friends are. I feel angry at the banks and the governments (both here and in my home) who allowed the economy to boom so unsustainably and have really !!!!ed things up for so many of my generation. But none of what has happened is my fault and we all have to take responsibility for our own choices regardless of the financial climate. And I am not sorry that I have taken care of my own household and ensured that we can weather this recession comfortably.

I'm sorry if you have over-extended yourself and have tied too much of your income to a depreciating asset class, which is how you come across in most of your posts. But if that is so that isn't my fault and you don't have the right to be nasty to me, or anybody else for that matter.

brit1234

GracieP wrote: »

I'm sorry if you have over-extended yourself and have tied too much of your income to a depreciating asset class, which is how you come across in most of your posts. But if that is so that isn't my fault and you don't have the right to be nasty to me, or anybody else for that matter.

:T Well said.:T

Jumping_Bean

GracieP wrote: »

Seeing as how close to half my household income is paid in taxes I doubt anyone would consider us spongers. Seeing as how for the majority of my career I have worked for NGO's like Oxfam and Barnardo's for a fraction of the salary my contemporaries in the private sector earned I doubt I could be considered a sponger. (Although I admit that the fact my husband is a high(ish) earner made living in London on a NGO salary more doable.) Seeing as how I worked full time all through uni, I don't think I could be considered a sponger. Seeing as how I spent my teens and early 20's doing volunteer work for AIDS, third world debt, environmental and local community charities I doubt I could be considered a sponger.

My household doesn't have a car, we have bikes, oystercards and membership of Streetcar. About 90% of our goods were bought on ebay or in charity shops. I shopped in Lidl/Aldi long before they were cool. My favourite activity is taking my dogs for a long walk. I'm about as flash as ditch water. Although we do splash out on fast fiber optic broadband and the occasional graphic novel.:cool:

We pay market rate for a service. That service includes fixing broken appliances in addition to use of the house. The fact that my payment for that service is about 3 times less than recent buyers on my street pay on their mortgage is not an indication of my greed, rather an indication of how totally screwed the housing market is. I feel sorry for people who are struggling, a lot of my friends are. I feel angry at the banks and the governments (both here and in my home) who allowed the economy to boom so unsustainably and have really !!!!ed things up for so many of my generation. But none of what has happened is my fault and we all have to take responsibility for our own choices regardless of the financial climate. And I am not sorry that I have taken care of my own household and ensured that we can weather this recession comfortably.

I'm sorry if you have over-extended yourself and have tied too much of your income to a depreciating asset class, which is how you come across in most of your posts. But if that is so that isn't my fault and you don't have the right to be nasty to me, or anybody else for that matter.

Got any response to that pickledpink?




Didn't think so.

pickles110564

pickledpink wrote: »

Thank God YOU'LL never be able to afford to buy...................you'd drag the neighbourhood down.

The words SPONGE and SINK ESTATE spring to mind.

Yeah but, no but, yeah but, no but......................

Ever heard of the words WORK, PRIDE and GRAFT?

Sounds like you and your parents are lazy lards who want everything done for them without getting off their fat butts!

You really have lost the plot.
Just because you did not do your research before you bought and have caught a cold there is no need to take your failings out on others.
You give us BTL's a bad name, keep your gob shut and do what you preach, get off your fat @rse and work your way out of the trouble you have bought.
It would not surprise me if you are going down the chucking the keys in route as we speak and that is why you have become so bitter and twisted.