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    gregrichards
    British Gas Essentials Tariff - advice please really worried
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    • 25th Jun 08, 4:57 PM
    British Gas Essentials Tariff - advice please really worried 25th Jun 08 at 4:57 PM
    Hi everyone

    I'm really worried like a lot of people about the price of my gas and electricity. I have been on British Gas Click Energy 5 but have just found out about the Essentials Tariff.

    I am 24 and in receipt of DLA, IB & IS because I genuinely cannot work as I've been left registered disabled with permanent nerve damage after two negligent discectomy operations and just wondered if the tariff is a lot cheaper and how anybody else found it.

    Just now I'm only putting the central heating on for warm water and use the bare minimum of electricity, the thought of a 50% rise is really worrying me.

    Any advice or information would be grately appreciated.
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    • SwanJon
    • By SwanJon 25th Jun 08, 10:28 PM
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    SwanJon
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    • 25th Jun 08, 10:28 PM
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    • 25th Jun 08, 10:28 PM
    Pricewise Essentials is the same as the standard DD tariff, so Click is cheaper. You can register for their Priority Services Register (EnergyCare) and see what else they can do to help you out.


    You shouldn't need your central heating on for your hot water - have you had the system checked recently?
    Last edited by SwanJon; 25-06-2008 at 10:35 PM.
  • shammyjack
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    • 26th Jun 08, 10:09 AM
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    • 26th Jun 08, 10:09 AM
    Have look at a previous post I made regarding Southern Electrics careline tarrif.

    You must spend 10% of your income on gas and electric to qualify .

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=914373&highlight=southern+electr ic

    shammy
  • monoxideuk
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    • 26th Jun 08, 11:18 AM
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    • 26th Jun 08, 11:18 AM
    Ive been tryin to find out info about the bg essentials tariff, but as of yet not found anything, Even tried to call bg to find out the tariff info and after beeing in a que for 40 mins to get through and put on hold for 20 mins to be told that i need to ring back when there systems come up,

    So if anyone could link the tariff info plus discount etc and how the tariff works it would be greatly appricated
  • gregrichards
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    • 26th Jun 08, 11:41 PM
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    • 26th Jun 08, 11:41 PM
    Pricewise Essentials is the same as the standard DD tariff, so Click is cheaper. You can register for their Priority Services Register (EnergyCare) and see what else they can do to help you out.


    You shouldn't need your central heating on for your hot water - have you had the system checked recently?
    Originally posted by SwanJon
    Thanks, I havent been able to work out what tariff is cheaper yet. I have central heating but I can put the HW on seperately from the CH. My CH is off all the time just now, so I'm just puting the HW on an hour a day for my hot water all day.

    Hopefully my bills will be cheap till September.
  • gregrichards
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    • 26th Jun 08, 11:45 PM
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    • 26th Jun 08, 11:45 PM
    Ive been tryin to find out info about the bg essentials tariff, but as of yet not found anything, Even tried to call bg to find out the tariff info and after beeing in a que for 40 mins to get through and put on hold for 20 mins to be told that i need to ring back when there systems come up,

    So if anyone could link the tariff info plus discount etc and how the tariff works it would be greatly appricated
    Originally posted by monoxideuk
    Thanks for letting me know about this, I'll be prepared for this when I contact them.

    Its so confusing, but I will definately be checking out Ebico sounds like the answer to my prayers. Hopefully its not too good to be true, the tariffs are cheap.
  • makfai
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    • 30th Jul 08, 12:08 PM
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    • 30th Jul 08, 12:08 PM
    One thing to note about British Gas Essentials Tariff is that (certainly for pre-payment meters) it takes SIX WEEKS to change to it. There is no work needed on the pre-payment meters it is done electronically at their offices. Why 6 weeks? No idea!
  • makfai
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    • 30th Jul 08, 12:21 PM
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    • 30th Jul 08, 12:21 PM
    This is worth reading
    http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Pages/MoreInformation.aspx?docid=202&refer=Media/PressRel
    SOCIAL TARIFFS MUST EQUAL SUPPLIERS’ CHEAPEST DEALS
    • jenhug
    • By jenhug 30th Jul 08, 9:12 PM
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    jenhug
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    • 30th Jul 08, 9:12 PM
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    • 30th Jul 08, 9:12 PM
    hello there, i have recently signed up for this tariff myself. the BG team told me the rates are as follows
    Gas 10.4% cheaper than their standard tariff
    Elec 4.8% " "

    the number to call is 0845 850 2207 that will take you straight through to the essentials tariff team.
  • wornoutmumoftwo
    I am on BG essentials for electric (all electric house on Economy 7/white meter)

    My day time rate is 14p
    My night rate is 5p

    Exactely the same price as their standard tarif if I paid via dd (I'm on a PPM).

    If you are phoning BG then check out saynoto0870.com and get the landline number as it will save on the old phone bill

    This is the page leading to the prices for both gas and electric; toohttp://www.britishgas.co.uk/products-and-services/energy/all-products-tariffs-prices-glance.html

    Edited to say: prices above were before today's price increase
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    • jenhug
    • By jenhug 30th Jul 08, 9:29 PM
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    jenhug
    If you are in receipt of:
    Child Tax Credit and salary is below £14,600
    Working Tax Credit and salary lower than £14,600
    Disability Living Allowance
    Pension Credit
    Attendance Allowance
    War Disablement Pension
    Disablement Pension
    Child Tax Benefit
    Income Support
    Income Based Job Seeker Allowance
    Carers Allowance
    Severe Disablement Allowance
    then you can apply for essentials
  • kjsmith7
    It's well worth switching now to the Essentials tariff if you can as the prices are fixed until April 2009. Therefore, you would now be paying LESS than when the prices went up. Click Energy 5 is likely to go up any time soon (probably after the other big suppliers have finished hiking THEIR prices up).
    • penypincher
    • By penypincher 31st Jul 08, 7:49 AM
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    penypincher
    It's well worth switching now to the Essentials tariff if you can as the prices are fixed until April 2009. Therefore, you would now be paying LESS than when the prices went up. Click Energy 5 is likely to go up any time soon (probably after the other big suppliers have finished hiking THEIR prices up).
    Originally posted by kjsmith7

    when i spoke with BG they said the Essentials Tariff rose when the prices did, so i would be better off capping as a 35% price rise would mean the capped rate was less expensive than the Essentials Tarrif (10% less than least expensive).

    can anyone help? Is the Essentials Tarrif capped until april 2009?
    • Pete268
    • By Pete268 31st Jul 08, 8:04 AM
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    Pete268
    Hi,

    I have been on the Essential Tariff for a year or so now (well, since they stopped the winter rebates anyway). I qualify because of my War Disablement Pension.

    Basically it is the same price as their monthly Direct Debit tariff regardless of how you pay for your gas (ie Pre Payment, quarterly billing etc - everyone on Essentials pays the same as if on the monthly DD plan).

    Pete
    Last edited by Pete268; 31-07-2008 at 8:08 AM.
  • chrism_scotland
    I am on BG essentials for electric (all electric house on Economy 7/white meter)

    My day time rate is 14p
    My night rate is 5p

    Exactely the same price as their standard tarif if I paid via dd (I'm on a PPM).

    If you are phoning BG then check out saynoto0870.com and get the landline number as it will save on the old phone bill

    This is the page leading to the prices for both gas and electric; toohttp://www.britishgas.co.uk/products-and-services/energy/all-products-tariffs-prices-glance.html

    Edited to say: prices above were before today's price increase
    Originally posted by wornoutmumoftwo
    British Gas has actually launched freephone numbers as of yesterday which should be on all bills/letters over the next few weeks which will save calling 0845 numbers,
  • chrism_scotland
    Hi,

    I have been on the Essential Tariff for a year or so now (well, since they stopped the winter rebates anyway). I qualify because of my War Disablement Pension.

    Basically it is the same price as their monthly Direct Debit tariff regardless of how you pay for your gas (ie Pre Payment, quarterly billing etc - everyone on Essentials pays the same as if on the monthly DD plan).

    Pete
    Originally posted by Pete268
    Yes, it used to be done as a rebate on PP meters but now there are new tariffs that are applied to KBD Key meters or Gas PP meters that charge the Essentials tariff everyday rather than a rebate payment each quarter.
    On billing meters it has always been a seperate tariff.
  • Kevin Blackstone
    Hi there this is my first post but just had to reply to let everyone know what i have just found out.

    Just got off the phone from British Gas and the gentlemen on the the phone confirmed that PRICE INCREASES WILL NOT AFFECTED PEPOLE WHO ARE ON THE ESSENTIALS TARRIFF AND RATES ARE FIXED TILL 2009. however will affect other tarrifs unless of course the rate is fixed on that tarrif.
    • elektra
    • By elektra 31st Jul 08, 2:30 PM
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    elektra
    Gas price
    For standard Gas registers, 4.192 pence per kilowatt for the first 12.526 kilowatts used a day, and 2.314 pence per kilowatt for the rest. Excluding VAT
    • john539
    • By john539 4th Aug 08, 1:03 PM
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    john539
    Basically it is the same price as their monthly Direct Debit tariff regardless of how you pay for your gas (ie Pre Payment, quarterly billing etc - everyone on Essentials pays the same as if on the monthly DD plan).
    Originally posted by Pete268
    I don't understand this.

    As far as I can tell Britsh Gas payment by Direct Debit & Cash rates are the same:

    BG Gas Rates
    http://www.britishgas.co.uk/pdf/Standard%20gas%20prices.pdf

    You don't get a lower rate when paying by DD, probably after outcry while back when people said they were being penalised for paying by cash on time.
    Last edited by john539; 04-08-2008 at 1:06 PM.
    • TotallyBroke
    • By TotallyBroke 4th Aug 08, 1:23 PM
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    TotallyBroke
    You don't get a lower rate when paying by dd. You pay the same for the kilowatt but you do get a discount off the total bill when paying a monthly amount for a quarterly bill.
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