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    • balsingh
    • By balsingh 24th Mar 08, 11:38 AM
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    Parking Restrictions - single yellow line
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    • 24th Mar 08, 11:38 AM
    Parking Restrictions - single yellow line 24th Mar 08 at 11:38 AM
    Got a ticket the other day for being parked on a single yellow line. The restriction was until 8pm but I thought it was 6.30pm. My query is that the road was long and there was one sign at one end and nothign else along the whole length of the road. Is there any hard and fast rule about how far apart there must be signs or is the one sign at one of the of the road adequate to enforce the restriction? I dont see why someone should have to walk 200 yards to see the only sign on a road!!
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    • Poppycat
    • By Poppycat 24th Mar 08, 11:43 AM
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    • 24th Mar 08, 11:43 AM
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    • 24th Mar 08, 11:43 AM
    Had a quick look, but it appears they has to be a sign nearby to indicate the times

    "A single yellow line means that there is no waiting at certain times shown on the nearby sign"

    http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/highways/road_safety_traffic_mgmt/yellow_lines.htm

    http://www.parking-appeals.gov.uk/RegAndLeg/parkingRegu.asp
    • Happychappy
    • By Happychappy 24th Mar 08, 1:25 PM
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    • 24th Mar 08, 1:25 PM
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    • 24th Mar 08, 1:25 PM
    A little walk to confirm is better then making it up and setting the law according to "Your thought of the day" possibly an expensive thought ?
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    • 24th Mar 08, 1:35 PM
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    • 24th Mar 08, 1:35 PM
    Revisit the area if you can, check the line is barred at either end.

    Also go to www.pepipoo.com and ask there since they'll offer much better advice.

    A little walk to confirm is better then making it up and setting the law according to "Your thought of the day" possibly an expensive thought ?
    Originally posted by Happychappy
    The problem is that local councils often set the law according to their own rules (unlawful), and rarely are called to account for them.
  • flankers
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    • 15th Nov 09, 10:56 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 10:56 AM
    i got a ticket for parking on single yellow line, but the line is about 10 meters long and is NOT barred at ends.do I have a chance to not pay a fine because of that. any advice please. there are no signs indicating restrictions, this is permit holder area only, and i have a permit.
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 15th Nov 09, 11:30 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 11:30 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 11:30 AM
    Unless anyone knows anything different I think a sign must be at each end and at a spacing of 30 metre in between.
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    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 15th Nov 09, 11:36 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 11:36 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 11:36 AM
    Dont know if you two have noticed but the original post is 18 months old.
    Last edited by McKneff; 15-11-2009 at 1:24 PM.
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    • Wig
    • By Wig 15th Nov 09, 11:57 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 11:57 AM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 11:57 AM
    Dont know if you two have noticed but the original post is 18 months old.
    Originally posted by McKneff


    You need to look at the TSRGD I think it might be 50m from any point to a sign, so signs to be 100m apart.

    Flankers,
    Can you post a picture of the line/surrounding area? And what parking contravention code is on your ticket?
    Last edited by Wig; 15-11-2009 at 12:57 PM.
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 15th Nov 09, 12:31 PM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 12:31 PM
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    • 15th Nov 09, 12:31 PM
    http://www.ticketfighter.co.uk/parking.htm#yellowlines
    Millies home.
    • Wig
    • By Wig 15th Nov 09, 1:06 PM
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    Having just looked at TSRGD

    I have come to the following conclusions, not too technically written and ommitting rather a lot to say the least.....

    1. A yellow road marking should not be placed except where accompanied by a sign on the same suide of the road as the marking.
    2. A sign should not be placed except in conjunction with a road marking
    on the same side of the road.

    The relevant single yellow marking is diagram 1017 must conform to the diagram with bars at the ends.
    The relevant sign is diagram 639

    The relevant Direction is Directions 24 & 25
    The signs may be ommitted if the area is within a 'Zone' the Zone must have 'Zone' signs at the entrance to the zone on all entry roads.

    So to conclude, There only needs to be 1 sign on the same side of the road as the markings and the sign needs to be in conjunction with the road markings. Both the sign and the markings must conform to standard.
  • 1nyro
    appeal
    YOU CAN STOP (NOT PARK) TO PICK UP OR SET DOWN PASSENGERS ON SINGLE/ DOUBLE YELLOW LINES.

    I believe the same applies to loading and unloading. There is a 20 minute limit.
    • Wig
    • By Wig 20th Feb 10, 8:58 PM
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    YOU CAN STOP (NOT PARK) TO PICK UP OR SET DOWN PASSENGERS ON SINGLE/ DOUBLE YELLOW LINES.

    I believe the same applies to loading and unloading. There is a 20 minute limit.
    Originally posted by 1nyro
    You can park on single yellows outside the restricted hours.

    I'm not sure the 20min limit is written down anywhere in law is it? Except in bylaws where it can be upto 40 mins. Tickets can and will be issued after 5mins in some councils and it is upto you to challenge them (which I would advise doing)
  • Dr.Shoe
    You can load on a single yellow line for 20 mins. However, to use this as an appeal means that you have to have a POD from the recipient who must be located nearby or you need an invoice from same.
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    • Wig
    • By Wig 21st Feb 10, 9:18 AM
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    Not sure what you mean by POD proof of delivery?

    But all you need is to prove you were un/loading and that your un/loading was over the time you did it for, and that it was necessary for you to do it over that time, and if there was a period of inactivity you need to show why that was.
    • cjcooper
    • By cjcooper 4th Apr 10, 8:53 PM
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    can i park on a single yellow on a bank holiday monday? signs clealy state saturday after 11am and sundays are ok and for the parking bays it states no fee to be paid on bank holidays. the area is around tower hill london
    • DaveF327
    • By DaveF327 4th Apr 10, 11:01 PM
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    can i park on a single yellow on a bank holiday monday?
    Originally posted by cjcooper
    No.

    signs clealy state saturday after 11am and sundays are ok
    but it doesn't say bank holiday mondays are.

    and for the parking bays it states no fee to be paid on bank holidays.
    That's fine for the parking bays, but you can't assume it applies to yellow lines unless the relevant yellow signs say so. I've never seen a yellow sign yet that exempts Mondays, bank holiday or otherwise.

    People who make assumptions are the ones who later post on here having gotten parking tickets.
    • Keith
    • By Keith 4th Apr 10, 11:05 PM
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    Best to check the local councils website, most will say if they enforce on BH or not. If the pay & display aren't enforced then I'd guess the SYL won't be.
    • olly300
    • By olly300 4th Apr 10, 11:14 PM
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    can i park on a single yellow on a bank holiday monday? signs clealy state saturday after 11am and sundays are ok and for the parking bays it states no fee to be paid on bank holidays. the area is around tower hill london
    Originally posted by cjcooper
    In London you need to be very careful as different councils have different parking restrictions on public holidays and bank holidays, plus different sides of the same road could be in different boroughs.

    http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/bankholidays.html

    Have a look at the council website making sure they cover the road you want to park in completely, but if in doubt don't park.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic

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    • cjcooper
    • By cjcooper 5th Apr 10, 3:59 PM
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    well i took a chance as there was loads parking on single yellows, and i was fine. lucky or not i dont know. its bloody confusing but thanks everyone for the advice
    • roddydogs
    • By roddydogs 5th Apr 10, 4:24 PM
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    The post is 2 years old!!!!!!!!!!
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