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Granite worktops, are they expensive?
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Old 29-01-2008, 6:40 PM
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I have a small kitchen but would like to change my worktops to the black granite ones. Are they expensive and how much roughly to install?
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Old 29-01-2008, 8:09 PM
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Just before Christmas we paid 2100 for 5.5metres of worktop, 6.3m of upstand and 1.5m windowcill in absolute black granite. This included templating,delivery and fitting.
It looks great!
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Old 29-01-2008, 10:19 PM
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www.diapol.co.uk

If you go on the website and measure your current worktops, you can put in the measurements and it will give you a quote. It's exactly the thing that they use with their proper measurements - I was a little rough with my own, going on the kitchen units that were about to be installed, but the final price was incredibly close

We've got about 9 linear metres of granite plus upstands and paid £2400. Ours is Stargate - black with silver flecks. If you are tiling the wall, you don't really need upstands.
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It depends how much you pay for them
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we have black granite with silver flecks and upstands and a undermount sink with drainer grooves inc fitting it was 2500 for 12 metres. Bought direct from the quarry in NW england. PM me if you are anywhere near here and I will give you the details.
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We got ours from somewhere in Derbyshire, and fitted them ourselves (well not me, might break a nail!). Am happy to get the details if needed x
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I paid 160 quid for 3 lengths of granite off ebay. DIY fitted, took 3 of us to lift them.
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Ours was from a local stonemason who mainly does headstones! They do have a kitchen team who come and do a template, then return to do the fitting a week or so later. I'd guess we had about 8 metres and it had the cutout for the sink and rounded edges, all in for 1,500. Beware of DIY as you need the right tools to get the polished edges and also it took 4 of them to carry one of our pieces!
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My workmates hubby said he can get the worktops and do it for 150
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150, you would do well to have Laminate for that price.
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My workmates hubby said he can get the worktops and do it for £150
I hope you either don't believe him or don't have a problem dealing with stolen goods. Or are we misinterpreting your comment - can he fit them for £150 & then there is the cost of the granite on top of that? Even then, has he got the skills.

I'd be wary, very wary. When things might sound too good to be true....
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Dear Kimberley,
We wanted to do exactly the same thing as you -black granite. Then I spoke to a few friends who had real black granite- and also some suppliers.
They said- and the suppliers confirmed -that natural granite is a porous material so you had to be careful how you cleaned it- no kitchen sprays containing bleach- as otherwise it would start to oxidize and eventually discolour and pit.

Darn I thought because I liked the look. Then another friend recommended Granite Transformations.
http://www.granitetransformations.co.uk/

They make sell and install sheets of a natural granite and acrylic mixture that looks exactly the same as granite and has the same cold heat resistant surface. However it has enhanced chemical resistance so you can clean it with what you like.
They fit this sheet and edges , spraybacks etc on top of your existing worktop effectively encasing it.
One advantage of this is less mess and you also get the look of a really thick slab of granite- for which I got quoted "double sheets" from real granite suppliers.

We had it fitted 2 years ago and are still absolutely delighted. They took 2 days to fit in our large kitchen-3 x 3m worktops and splashbacks.It looks the same as granite and has worn really well so far. No-one visiting realized it was not real granite -including my friends who have the natural sort!

And needless to say as this is Money Saving Expert forum -it was a lot cheaper than what we had been quoted for the other stuff ( just over half the cost).

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www.diapol.co.uk

If you go on the website and measure your current worktops, you can put in the measurements and it will give you a quote. It's exactly the thing that they use with their proper measurements - I was a little rough with my own, going on the kitchen units that were about to be installed, but the final price was incredibly close

We've got about 9 linear metres of granite plus upstands and paid 2400. Ours is Stargate - black with silver flecks. If you are tiling the wall, you don't really need upstands.
I bought mine from diapol a year ago I am very happy with their work.

The total price was 1760
which included-

two lengths of worktop 3m and 1m88cm
(with beveled edges, draining grooves, tap hole and fitting of an undermounted sink)
a 60cmX70cm cooker splashback
4m28cm of 20cm high upstands.
in absolute black

templating, transporting and fitting.
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They make sell and install sheets of a natural granite and acrylic mixture that looks exactly the same as granite and has the same cold heat resistant surface.

No-one visiting realized it was not real granite -including my friends who have the natural sort!
I'm a big fan of Granite Transformations surfaces - but they don't look exactly the same as granite - not if you're familiar with the look of granite.

Neither are they as heat resistant as granite - the literature says resistant to 150 degrees C - so avoid putting hot stuff straight from a hot oven on them.

It isn't possible for them to do small curves for the corners either -they can only fabricate shallow curves.

As I said - I like these surfaces and it might be worth looking at some samples - but granite they're not!
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I have had no problems putting hot pans down on the surfaces. I would hesitate to put something down out of a hot oven but that is not recommmended for granite either
While granite may be heat resistant, sealers used on its surface may not be- so you would get marks from hot pans. Sealing is recommended once a year,

My main concern was hygeine

You cannot clean granite with kitchen sprays containing bleach or anti bacterial sprays ( not very eco but I'm afraid I use them for ease and efficiency). If you do the surface pits and you get white powdery deposits your black granite- saw this at my friend's she was livid
Similarly no other acid stuff- wine, citric acid (lemons) vinegar ( which stumps your eco cleansers too. Just soap

The joins were more obvious on real granite as well- near invisible on the GT stuff. We also had less overall joins as the sheets were bigger- one of over counters goes around a chimney breat and is 3 metres long - this was all one bit

All said I would not have gone for it if it did not look great

Anyway I'm pleased and saved enough money to pay for the flooring

Hope kimberley is pleased with whatever she chooses!
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I'm glad you're pleased with your tops helcat - like I said, I like them too. I just don't think they should be confused with real granite.

It's perfectly true that granite can't have invisible joins - if you want those then granite isn't for you.

There are also many different qualities of granite and some of the cheap ones around these days are not as suitable for worktops - especially some of the black ones which aren't technically granite at all. If you get a white patch on your granite with nail polish remover, or lemon juice or vinegar - then it isn't good quality granite. If the liquid goes black, then the tops have been stained to look more black - a common trick, I believe, with cheaper black granites.

Good quality, dense, mottled, dark granites can be used without sealing and will not be affected by lemon juice or vinegar and you can use bleach on them (as long as it isn't on there all the time!). You can also put hot pans direct from the oven on them (as many owners will testify!) although it isn't recommended, especially for narrow pieces of granite. It's marble that is attacked by vinegar and lemon juice - but I wouldn't recommend marble for worktops anyway - and I personally wouldn't have a plain black top, since it will show fingerprints and dust and watermarks - even if it's super duper quality.

What you need to avoid are abrasive cleaners, which can cause scratches, leaving oil on the surface for long periods, because it might soak in, and really strong chemicals like battery acid, paint stripper and drain cleaner, which could etch the surface.

If you choose a very cheap granite, or an exotic granite with lots of graining and irregularities, or an unusual pattern, or a very pale colour - then you need to be more careful - and sealing is advisable (essential with pale colours). For pale coloured worktops I often recommend quartz composites (or the tops from Granite Transformations if no tight curves are required) - since they are very non-absorbent.

I don't think you can beat a really good quality granite for looks, though.

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I have had no problems putting hot pans down on the surfaces. I would hesitate to put something down out of a hot oven but that is not recommmended for granite either
While granite may be heat resistant, sealers used on its surface may not be- so you would get marks from hot pans. Sealing is recommended once a year,

My main concern was hygeine

You cannot clean granite with kitchen sprays containing bleach or anti bacterial sprays ( not very eco but I'm afraid I use them for ease and efficiency). If you do the surface pits and you get white powdery deposits your black granite- saw this at my friend's she was livid
Similarly no other acid stuff- wine, citric acid (lemons) vinegar ( which stumps your eco cleansers too. Just soap

The joins were more obvious on real granite as well- near invisible on the GT stuff. We also had less overall joins as the sheets were bigger- one of over counters goes around a chimney breat and is 3 metres long - this was all one bit

All said I would not have gone for it if it did not look great

Anyway I'm pleased and saved enough money to pay for the flooring

Hope kimberley is pleased with whatever she chooses!

Any idea how the costs compare with granite? some indication of what you paid may be usefull.
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