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    intheory
    Railcard discount for oyster prepay
    • #1
    • 3rd Jan 08, 12:36 AM
    Railcard discount for oyster prepay 3rd Jan 08 at 12:36 AM
    Transport for London have introduced a discount daily price cap for holders of National Rail Railcards who use Oyster pay-as-you-go. The eligible Railcards are: Disabled Persons, HM Forces, Senior and Young Persons.

    You save 1/3 on the standard adult daily price cap. For example, it will cost £3.10 for a day's unlimited travel in zones 1 and 2, instead of the standard £4.80. The discount only applies to off-peak travel (which I think is any time after 9.30am).

    To activate the discount you need to get it loaded onto your Oyster card by taking it, with your Railcard, to any tube ticket office.

    It's a new scheme so when I asked the staff didn't know about it, but you can point to the details on page 14 of the new Guide to Fares leaflet available at the station or from here: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/guide-to-fares-and-tickets-08-01-02.pdf

    Official MoneySavingExpert.com insert:

    Just wanted to add a couple of extra details. If your local national rail station is listed here, you can also register your railcard concession there. Below are the peak and off-peak price cap limits with the railcard. Note again that the discount only applies to off-peak travel.

    Travel in --- Peak --- Off-Peak

    Zones 1-2 - £6.30 - £3.10
    Zones 1-3 - £7.50 - £3.50
    Zones 1-4 - £8.90 - £3.50
    Zones 1-5 - £11.30 - £4.20
    Zones 1-6 - £13.30 - £4.20
    Zones 1-9 - £14.50 - £5

    Thanks to intheory for spotting and posting this deal. Nice work!

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    Last edited by MSE Martin; 15-01-2008 at 7:22 PM.
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    • silvercar
    • By silvercar 3rd Jan 08, 12:11 PM
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    • #2
    • 3rd Jan 08, 12:11 PM
    • #2
    • 3rd Jan 08, 12:11 PM
    Thanks for the link; child oyster cards are free from 5th Jan (previously £5), will wait til the weekend and save a fiver!
  • morg_monster
    • #3
    • 9th Jan 08, 2:20 PM
    Railcard discounts on PAYG Oyster
    • #3
    • 9th Jan 08, 2:20 PM
    Useful for anyone who uses an Oyster card and also holds one of the following National Rail railcards ONLY:
    Disabled Persons
    HM Forces,
    Senior
    Young Persons

    You can now have your railcard "attached" to your oyster card so that you save 34% on off peak daily price capping only. Note that you don't save on single journeys, the discount is applied once you reach the daily price cap.
    More details here:
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/singlefares/6769.aspx

    This way of applying the discount is not perfect but it has been a long time coming, so (for once) I say well done TFL
    This means that these railcard holders can now travel as much as you want in zones 1 and 2 for either a weekday after 9.30am or on a weekend day and only pay £3.10, this is really a bargain I think.
    (Am going to post this in student moneysaving for all the students)
  • ticketcollector
    • #4
    • 9th Jan 08, 9:23 PM
    • #4
    • 9th Jan 08, 9:23 PM
    I can confirm this.
    I am rail staff but cos im not old enough I dont get free travel on the Tube, I have a YP card (as it is cheaper to use a YP card then staff rate on some tickets) and have had it 'attached' to my oystercard.
    Max fare I paid for Z1-2 off peak was £3.10. (2 singles on oyster plus 10p)

    Must warn you that Oyster PAYG does not work on all Operators in the Zonal system and could be cheaper for you to get a paper travelcard with YP discount for £4.85.
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    • Happychappy
    • By Happychappy 9th Jan 08, 10:32 PM
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    • 9th Jan 08, 10:32 PM
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    • 9th Jan 08, 10:32 PM
    Hi, I am having to go to London for three days next week where I shall be using the tube in Zone 1 or 2 abot twice per day.

    I have an Oyster card which I have just received but havent yet activated as I have never used one before. Is it cheaper to use this for the off peak journeyys I need to make ? does anyone have any idea of what a return journey within Z1 or 2 costs on the oyster card compared to a day ticket or three day ticket if they do such a thing ?

    Thanks
  • dzug
    • #6
    • 9th Jan 08, 11:05 PM
    • #6
    • 9th Jan 08, 11:05 PM
    A return journey within zone 1 costs £8 without Oyster, £3 with.

    A day ticket is £6.80 peak, £5.30 off-peak. Oyster will cap at 50p less.

    A three day ticket is £17.40 peak, no off-peak fare.
    • Happychappy
    • By Happychappy 10th Jan 08, 6:19 PM
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    Happychappy
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    • 10th Jan 08, 6:19 PM
    • #7
    • 10th Jan 08, 6:19 PM
    A return journey within zone 1 costs £8 without Oyster, £3 with.

    A day ticket is £6.80 peak, £5.30 off-peak. Oyster will cap at 50p less.

    A three day ticket is £17.40 peak, no off-peak fare.
    Originally posted by dzug
    Thanks for that info, very useful, now I shall register the card and put some money on it ready for Monday.
    • Beate
    • By Beate 15th Jan 08, 10:49 PM
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    Beate
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    • 15th Jan 08, 10:49 PM
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    • 15th Jan 08, 10:49 PM
    Senior Railcard holders from London will not really profit from this as they have a free buspass already, but for senior citizens from other parts of England this can be quite useful.
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  • muffin_man
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    • 16th Jan 08, 1:38 AM
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    • 16th Jan 08, 1:38 AM
    Sorry if I seem to state the obvious here, but its a a query I had before I used my Oyster card for the first time (non-Londoner). As mentioned, Oyster single fares are already significantly cheaper than cash fares, but I was not sure exactly how the price capping works, as its not completely evident from TfL website.

    Basically, once you have spent the value of the relevant 'cap', you don't pay for any trips after that e.g. assuming you are staying in Zone 1-2, travelling off-peak, your discounted price cap would be £3.10. So, for your first two journeys, you would be charged £1.50 (the standard price), the third journey would 'cap' at £0.10, and all subsequent journies would be charged as £0.00.

    The alternative that I had thought possible is that you are charged for every single trip you make, and then at the end of the 'Oyster day', any fares paid above the relevant price cap (depending on time of travel and Zones visited) are refunded onto your account....which seems silly now, but I thought it possible.
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 16th Jan 08, 1:41 AM
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    KeithP
    Senior Railcard holders from London will not really profit from this as they have a free buspass already, but for senior citizens from other parts of England this can be quite useful.
    Originally posted by Beate
    Only until April, Beate. Then all the country's senior citizens will be able to use London's buses for free too (with some restrictions of course - this is England ).
    • chuckley
    • By chuckley 16th Jan 08, 1:46 AM
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    chuckley
    how does this work, if your starting station is not an oyster station?!
  • muffin_man
    how does this work, if your starting station is not an oyster station?!
    Originally posted by chuckley
    I imagine that provided you get to an Oyster station at some point during the same day to register your discount, the discounted price cap should still apply, including any previous journies that day.
    • chuckley
    • By chuckley 16th Jan 08, 2:05 AM
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    chuckley
    I imagine that provided you get to an Oyster station at some point during the same day to register your discount, the discounted price cap should still apply, including any previous journies that day.
    Originally posted by muffin_man
    so basically it only applies to people starting at an oyster station?

    glad to see im not wasting any money yet
  • michaelgabriel
    Only until April, Beate. Then all the country's senior citizens will be able to use London's buses for free too (with some restrictions of course - this is England ).
    Originally posted by KeithP
    Yes - they will be able to use London's BUSES for free from April. But this registration of Senior Railcard will give benefits with Tube, Rail, DLR & Trams as well as buses
  • mjon3105
    I am rather confused as I too have been told by Rail station staff that there is no off peak 3 day travel card rate available though this does NOT correspond with what is stated on the tfl.gov.uk website which clearly indicates tehre is such a card available.... or is it only available at certain stations eg; on the tube?

    Advice appreciated....I spoke with TFL again this morning who said YES and no restrictions but with local Rail; station who said NO 3 day off peak available......


    A return journey within zone 1 costs £8 without Oyster, £3 with.

    A day ticket is £6.80 peak, £5.30 off-peak. Oyster will cap at 50p less.

    A three day ticket is £17.40 peak, no off-peak fare.
    Originally posted by dzug
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 16th Jan 08, 9:45 AM
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    KeithP
    mjon3105, just guessing but does there is no off peak 3 day travel card rate available mean that there is only a full price valid any time 3day travelcard available?

    If so, perhaps everybody is right -
    a) TFL said YES (it is available) and no restrictions (no restrictions means it is available peak and offpeak, i.e. full price).
    b) local Rail station said NO 3 day off peak available (i.e. only the full priced, valid peak and off peak, is available).
    c) dzug said a three day ticket is £17.40 peak, no off-peak fare.

    As I said, just a guess.
  • dzug
    I imagine that provided you get to an Oyster station at some point during the same day to register your discount, the discounted price cap should still apply, including any previous journies that day.
    Originally posted by muffin_man

    Correct - I registered mine in the middle of the day and the previous journeys were counted towards the cap, not charged separately.

    Once it's registered it's on the card for good - you don't need to do it each day.
  • dzug
    There is a three day off peak travelcard available - but only for zones 1-6 (£20) - not zones 1-2 where there is only the one price (£17.40) for both peak/off-peak.

    Maybe you asked the wrong question. Or they answered the wrong question...
    • Riq
    • By Riq 16th Jan 08, 12:53 PM
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    Riq
    Is anyone else having trouble getting on the tfl website?

    I ordered my oyster card yesterday as I am off to London on the 1st Feb. I will arrive at Euston, so can I get my YP railcard attached to my oyster.

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  • glen1009
    Anyone travelling in Zone 1 and 2 London will be better off buying off peak day ticket - Think £5.30 per day - cheaper than 3 day ticket £17.40 for 3 days. Found out when in London couple of weeks back. If anyone has children with them - Younger ages free - 12 year old paid £1 per day.
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