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    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 8th Feb 18, 6:48 PM
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    Adding Kerb appeal in February?
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    • 8th Feb 18, 6:48 PM
    Adding Kerb appeal in February? 8th Feb 18 at 6:48 PM
    We put our house on the market last week but there's been much less interest in it than we hoped/expected. It does seem priced about right as far as we're aware. So far, we've had one 'proceedable' viewing (they came, they spent 45 mins, they disappeared with no feedback given), one 'non-proceedable' which was cancelled, and have another non-proceedable viewing booked for next week.
    I know this is generally a quiet time of year but I think our house should be doing better. Imo it doesn't have enough kerb appeal - link to pic here
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1a0lwf2hely2ye/2018-02-06%2013.10.35.jpg?dl=0
    There isn't much scope to do any of the usual front garden things because there *is* no front garden; the front door opens straight onto the street, but I think it looks a bit drab, even though the inside of the house is not. The window ledges are shallow and they slope so we can't have window boxes.
    It's in a quiet, safe, pleasant conservation area and we are happy with the inside pics taken by the agent, but I can't help thinking the outside pic of the house may be putting people off. I usually put some seasonal plants outside, as do other neighbours in our little terrace, but as it's February - and very cold as we all know - there's little or no chance of having nice colourful flowers (which provide a good contrast to the black.)
    At the moment we have a small olive tree and a dormant climber in containers outside the door but these aren't doing anything to brighten the appearance.
    Please could anyone give me some pointers to help me brighten it up a bit? Or am I best being a bit more patient and waiting til spring?
    Last edited by Kittenonthekeys; 08-02-2018 at 6:56 PM.
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    • takman
    • By takman 8th Feb 18, 11:06 PM
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    I was going to ask how on earth you know where my house is (unless you are local) but I guess you may have done a picture search?
    Originally posted by Kittenonthekeys
    Yes I did a picture search as I was curious if you had used the actual picture from the listing.

    As mentioned above, every house here is different. The house next door that sold for £202K in 2015 may look the same outwardly but is/was totally different from ours, in layout, size, condition and even size/state of the garden. Plus that was 3 years ago, the town's faciliities have improved considerably and continue to do so as new business moves in, people are being priced out of Cambridge and are now looking in surrounding towns; obv prices have increased across the board since 2015. That house next door would now probably be valued at around £250K, not £202K.
    The house next door on the other side of us is different yet again (the one with the window boxes) was sold at the same time in 2015 within a week, for £230K - full asking. Neither of my neighbours are semis - they are both terraced.
    Other houses in the surrounding streets have sold fairly recently (sorry I dont have the detsils to hand) at more than ours and they covered more or less the same footprint.
    You may well be right about our price being too high but we got 3 separate valuations and settled on the middle amount. Time will tell - we will drop the price if we need to, once the market picks up in spring.
    Originally posted by Kittenonthekeys
    The price may be right for the area but it just seems abit high from what I've seen and when you considering finding a parking space seems extremely difficult.
    But I agree you shouldn't reduce it if your in no rush to sell and had it valued recently.
    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 8th Feb 18, 11:06 PM
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    Re the parking, we've never had a problem finding a space and we have 2 cars. There's a council car park around the corner and also on-street permits, although there's no enforcement here. Slightly more difficult parking is a trade-off for living in (any) town centre and for having excellent facilities all within short walking distance. Houses still sell here.
    Re the garden, no, it isn't ideal for children - its a courtyard garden. This house generally is really more suitable for a couple and that's the type of buyer we're targeting really.
    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 8th Feb 18, 11:15 PM
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    When they bought the house in 2009 it had a much better picture of the garden:

    http://media.rightmove.co.uk/dir/6k/5368/27684827/5368_152040_IMG_07_0000_max_656x437.jpg

    So I'm surprised the new picture isn't as good considering the rest of the house looks better.
    Originally posted by takman
    The plants have grown a lot since it was done in 2009, but I will take better pictures. I don't like the wide-angled lens pic as it looks distorted and not true to life. (Thank you, I'm glad you think the rest of the house looks better
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 8th Feb 18, 11:16 PM
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    Re the parking, we've never had a problem finding a space and we have 2 cars. There's a council car park around the corner and also on-street permits, although there's no enforcement here. Slightly more difficult parking is a trade-off for living in (any) town centre and for having excellent facilities all within short walking distance. Houses still sell here.
    Originally posted by Kittenonthekeys
    Then I would make that clear in the listing. Much more important than the Cromwell Museum and TK Maxx.

    Re the garden, no, it isn't ideal for children - its a courtyard garden. This house generally is really more suitable for a couple and that's the type of buyer we're targeting really.
    Ah, I guess Cambridge-ish is a very different market to where I live, then. Three beds here are typically considered a family home, so they're marketed toward families. They are sometimes bought by couples who both work from home, friends/siblings getting on the ladder together, etc., but they're generally more sought after by families.

    It just seems high-maintenance for something that can't be used for practical purposes. I feel like I'd need to be a keen gardener if I bought your house.
    Last edited by Penitent; 08-02-2018 at 11:19 PM.
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 8th Feb 18, 11:25 PM
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    Penitent
    As mentioned above, every house here is different.
    Originally posted by Kittenonthekeys
    Sorry, just to come back to this. Bear in mind that potential buyers often don't know about the quirks of your street and will do the same thing that takman did. They'll look at recent sold prices for semis and maybe question why the terraced with the double yellow lines and questionable parking is going for more. I'm not suggesting this means you need to drop your price if your house is actually worth more, but it might suggest why you haven't had the response you expected.
    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 8th Feb 18, 11:30 PM
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    Then I would make that clear in the listing. Much more important than the Cromwell Museum and TK Maxx.

    Ah, I guess Cambridge-ish is a very different market to where I live, then. Three beds here are typically considered a family home, so they're marketed toward families. They are sometimes bought by couples who both work from home, friends/siblings getting on the ladder together, etc., but they're generally more sought after by families.

    It just seems high-maintenance for something that can't be used for practical purposes. I feel like I'd need to be a keen gardener if I bought your house.
    Originally posted by Penitent
    Thank you - I will go and rewrite the listing (luckily I have full control over it), you're absolutely right and it's been so helpful for me to have the opportunity to see it from other people's perspectives. I guess as the parking has never been an issue for us, I didnt think to give it centre stage, but I realise of course it is important.
    Actually, the garden is low maintenance and really easy / enjoyable to look after - it's mostly containers, there are no weeds, no grass to mow and only the big plants need cutting back every couple of weeks in the summer. It's also completely unoverlooked.
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 8th Feb 18, 11:48 PM
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    Thank you - I will go and rewrite the listing (luckily I have full control over it), you're absolutely right and it's been so helpful for me to have the opportunity to see it from other people's perspectives. I guess as the parking has never been an issue for us, I didnt think to give it centre stage, but I realise of course it is important.
    Originally posted by Kittenonthekeys
    You're welcome. Parking is a Big Thing where I live, so it's one of those things that always pops out at me, even though I don't drive.

    People might be drawn in by being sold a lifestyle, especially at the high end of the market, but I think they ultimately want to know the practical stuff like where the car, the washing machine and the wheelie bins go and whether their granny's antique wardrobe will fit up the stairs.

    Actually, the garden is low maintenance and really easy / enjoyable to look after - it's mostly containers, there are no weeds, no grass to mow and only the big plants need cutting back every couple of weeks in the summer. It's also completely unoverlooked.
    Bear in mind that I'm nervous of plants (I feel like they're full of creepy crawlies that are going to jump on me), so my views may be skewed on this. My personal preference is for a small paved yard with high walls, a washing line and somewhere to keep the wheelie bins. I don't really do decorative gardens.
    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 9th Feb 18, 12:09 AM
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    You're welcome. Parking is a Big Thing where I live, so it's one of those things that always pops out at me, even though I don't drive.

    People might be drawn in by being sold a lifestyle, especially at the high end of the market, but I think they ultimately want to know the practical stuff like where the car, the washing machine and the wheelie bins go and whether their granny's antique wardrobe will fit up the stairs.



    Bear in mind that I'm nervous of plants (I feel like they're full of creepy crawlies that are going to jump on me), so my views may be skewed on this. My personal preference is for a small paved yard with high walls, a washing line and somewhere to keep the wheelie bins. I don't really do decorative gardens.
    Originally posted by Penitent
    BIB
    Our plants are very friendly - they don't bite And no creepy crawlies either.
    We have 3 wheelie bins, plus a small summer house and a tiny shed - all neatly tucked away in that garden. Yes there's even room for a washing line / rotary airer if someone wanted to have them. Plenty of space for all the practicalities of life, both inside and outside our house. The parking has barely even registered on our radar of inconveniences, but I can see how someone might think it is a problem. Still, plenty of people live around here, almost all have at least one vehicle and they manage quite well, so it really shouldn't be a deal breaker.
    I've revised my listing so it should go live tomorrow morning.
    Thanks again, much appreciated,
    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 9th Feb 18, 10:53 AM
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    I've retaken the garden pic to show more of it (below), amended the blurb on RM to cut out the waffle, explained more about the parking - and when the wind dies down a bit, I'll sort out the front of the house.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqz1d4zcmivkmcz/2018-02-09%2010.22.56.jpg?dl=0
    Last edited by Kittenonthekeys; 09-02-2018 at 11:01 AM.
    • pimento
    • By pimento 9th Feb 18, 11:04 AM
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    I can't find the listing from the image. Can someone help me out?

    ETA. Found it!
    Last edited by pimento; 09-02-2018 at 11:15 AM.
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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 9th Feb 18, 11:09 AM
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    It sounds daft, but I think I'd consider spending £20 on a dab of paint to make the front door the lighter colour of the house to the right .... painting a couple of planters to match that at the bottom... then taking the photo to exclude the house on the left.

    Those black fronts are a bit "ominous" looking, so it will be dismissed more readily by those who don't see that as the first sight.

    For window boxes, if you first affix a small wedge onto the windowsill a window box would sit flat... for it being windy, yes, plants would die ... but all you need is a few cheery ones in a box for the photos (could even be plastic).

    Any other issues aside, the frontage will just dissuade people who "might be persuaded" it's the house for them once they're inside. The ditherers, the "never thought we'd buy here" sorts....

    It all depends how much time/money/effort you want to put into it
    • Kittenonthekeys
    • By Kittenonthekeys 9th Feb 18, 11:28 AM
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    PasturesNew- very helpful tips, thank you.
    I'm eager to try them but it's just too cold for me to be working outside or having the front door open to paint it at the moment (getting over a winter virus
    I'll have to wait til the weather improves slightly but all food for thought. !!!55357;!!!56397;
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